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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here
Posted on 4/6/17 at 5:53 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Posted on 4/6/17 at 5:53 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
My old man has been. If you're wading, you'll find a-hole bones and a-hole permit. If you find a skiff, you'll find frustrating bones and a-hole permit.
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:03 pm to bluemoons
That's about what I figured
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:13 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
Not to say they're uncatchable. I would just go with tempered expectations.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:23 pm to bluemoons
Friend of mine was in the lower keys last week and caught a huge permit on the fly out of a boat. I'll see if I can post the pic
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:38 pm to Polar Pop
Ok just got in from my first backyard session,very fun.
I did not do nearly as bad as I thought I would.
I got into the general motion, wrist tight, let line straighten out on the back cast (immediate problem I had to focus on) and I brought it out and found a little groove of shooting it with a forward motion which seemed to help with my accuracy.
I put a few soccer balls in the yard and worked on getting as close to them as possible.
My main inconsistency was getting the line to lay out flat instead of a zig zagged pile 10ft in front of me.
Very fun evening though. Of course in the grass there is no frustration and pressure of water/not catching fish and all of that good shite
*This is one handed since I was filming myself
I did not do nearly as bad as I thought I would.
I got into the general motion, wrist tight, let line straighten out on the back cast (immediate problem I had to focus on) and I brought it out and found a little groove of shooting it with a forward motion which seemed to help with my accuracy.
I put a few soccer balls in the yard and worked on getting as close to them as possible.
My main inconsistency was getting the line to lay out flat instead of a zig zagged pile 10ft in front of me.
Very fun evening though. Of course in the grass there is no frustration and pressure of water/not catching fish and all of that good shite
*This is one handed since I was filming myself
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:18 pm to Polar Pop
One your forward cast push down with your thumb a little more.
Aim about 2 feet above your target.
Aim about 2 feet above your target.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:58 pm to Polar Pop
What he said ^^. Don't get frustrated with it and just enjoy it. Once you get the general casting motion and basic fundamentals down, I'm a big proponent of doing what feels right. A lot of folks seek out youtube or in person casting lessons, but what works for me may not work for you. Sweet man 
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ETA: Not fly fishing related, but here's a photo from today.
. ETA: Not fly fishing related, but here's a photo from today.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:13 pm to bluemoons
nice
Posted on 4/7/17 at 8:43 am to PapaPogey
I've always messed around with my dad's old rod/reel. Some no name combo that's no telling how old, so I'm in the process of setting myself up with a new rig. Looking for a beginner-intermediate setup because there's always a chance I don't get into it as much as I want. In other words, I don't want a Shakespeare setup from Walmart but not a $700 outfit from Orvis.
Found a good deal on Sierra Trading Post for a Redington Path 4/5/6. Think I'm going to pair it with an Echo Base rod. thoughts on that setup?
Also, trying to figure out if I want a 4 wt rod or a 5 wt. Will primarily be used for trout and panfish, with the occasional bass mixed in. I'd love to go the 4 wt, as I like lite gear, but figure the 5 wt would be better all-around rod
Found a good deal on Sierra Trading Post for a Redington Path 4/5/6. Think I'm going to pair it with an Echo Base rod. thoughts on that setup?
Also, trying to figure out if I want a 4 wt rod or a 5 wt. Will primarily be used for trout and panfish, with the occasional bass mixed in. I'd love to go the 4 wt, as I like lite gear, but figure the 5 wt would be better all-around rod
Posted on 4/7/17 at 9:50 am to fillmoregandt
Link? I'm interested in getting into this as well.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:30 am to atom1505
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:51 am to fillmoregandt
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Also, trying to figure out if I want a 4 wt rod or a 5 wt. Will primarily be used for trout and panfish, with the occasional bass mixed in. I'd love to go the 4 wt, as I like lite gear, but figure the 5 wt would be better all-around rod
It really just depends. I have both, and I use my 4wt 10x more than my 5wt. 4wt is more fun for overall pond fishing. Little perch pull hard. Decent bass pull really hard. Small perch aren't much match for a 5wt. The trade off is a 4wt struggles with big bass poppers and heavy bass flies, so just be aware of that. If I had to pick one, I'd go with a 4wt.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 10:56 am to Polar Pop
One of the most common issues that I've seen in people that fish but are just learning to fly fish is their back cast. Everyone gets the forceful acceleration on the front cast, but the back cast is typically unnatural to most people that are used to fishing conventionally. Most of the time when I'm teaching someone to fish, they either 1) don't accelerate to a stop forcefully enough on the backcast or 2) begin their forward cast too quickly. Either one will result in a tailing loop that will then keep your forward cast from fully unfurling, meaning that the belly (middle section of your fly line between your leader and your rod tip) will hit first and your front end will just sortof flop down.
The guide that taught me to cast well would always yell "Wait on Jimmy" everytime I'd begin my forward stroke too soon. It's an unnatural rhythm to wait while the line extends behind you, but it's necessary for a good presentation. Eventually I got to where waiting on Jimmy was natural and my casting improved a ton. As far as the backcast goes, I always recommend to mirror your front stroke in length/degrees and force/acceleration. 10-2 is a good stroke to start with. Most importantly, just get out there and throw while trying to keep proper mechanics. After a few practice sessions it'll seem a lot more natural.
The guide that taught me to cast well would always yell "Wait on Jimmy" everytime I'd begin my forward stroke too soon. It's an unnatural rhythm to wait while the line extends behind you, but it's necessary for a good presentation. Eventually I got to where waiting on Jimmy was natural and my casting improved a ton. As far as the backcast goes, I always recommend to mirror your front stroke in length/degrees and force/acceleration. 10-2 is a good stroke to start with. Most importantly, just get out there and throw while trying to keep proper mechanics. After a few practice sessions it'll seem a lot more natural.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 11:03 am to fillmoregandt
A 5 wt would probably be a better overall rod, but you're right in that a 4 wt would be more fun with small fish. If you don't already have a rod, I'd start with a 5. That will cover all of your freshwater pond bases. It can handle wind, throw wooly buggers, poppers, and even streamers pretty well. The 4 might have trouble with anything size 10 or bigger (pretty much everything that you'd use for a bass), and it won't handle a strong wind as well. If you're considering fishing moving water for trout, a 5wt will mend a lot easier than a 4wt for most beginners plus it'll throw droppers, split shot, and indicator rigs better too. If you really get into it and decide that you like fly fishing enough, then just get a 3 wt as your next rod and you'll have the best of both worlds.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:31 pm to LSUtiger17
Thanks for the info fellas
Probably going to just go with the 5wt, and maybe get a 4 or 3 later. I'll be primarily fishing a trout stream/river north of Bham, and sounds like the 5 is the standard for an all-around rod.
Really looking forward to getting into all this.
ETA: what's the difference as far as casting distance goes? I'm assuming the 5 will go farther especially if I'm throwing heavier flies
Probably going to just go with the 5wt, and maybe get a 4 or 3 later. I'll be primarily fishing a trout stream/river north of Bham, and sounds like the 5 is the standard for an all-around rod.
Really looking forward to getting into all this.
ETA: what's the difference as far as casting distance goes? I'm assuming the 5 will go farther especially if I'm throwing heavier flies
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:35 pm to fillmoregandt
In all honesty, if you enjoy this you will most likely (95%) get a 2nd rod. When you do the 1st rod will be put up unless you let friends borrow it.
I have a bunch of rods as I build them (maybe 20) from 2 to 12 wt. The rod that I use the most is the 4wt.
I'd strongly recommend you buy the 4wt. Then get a 6wt later for heavier flies/windy days/bass.
4 and 6 are the 2 rods that I take everywhere for freshwater.
I have a bunch of rods as I build them (maybe 20) from 2 to 12 wt. The rod that I use the most is the 4wt.
I'd strongly recommend you buy the 4wt. Then get a 6wt later for heavier flies/windy days/bass.
4 and 6 are the 2 rods that I take everywhere for freshwater.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 1:17 pm to bbvdd
Now I'm leaning 4wt, ha
Definitely looks like I'll be getting two (or more) rods
Definitely looks like I'll be getting two (or more) rods
Posted on 4/7/17 at 4:12 pm to fillmoregandt
Like I said earlier, it really just depends on your preference. Everything LSUTiger said is 100% accurate. 4wt = more fun across species. 5wt = you can throw a bigger variety of flies and more versatile.
I hardly ever use my 5wt, but I don't trout fish and I don't have to worry about mending line. I throw small poppers for bass.
I hardly ever use my 5wt, but I don't trout fish and I don't have to worry about mending line. I throw small poppers for bass.
Posted on 4/7/17 at 5:06 pm to fillmoregandt
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Now I'm leaning 4wt, ha
You'll be good either way. There's a strong chance that you'll end up getting another rod later on to cover all of the bases anyways
Posted on 4/8/17 at 12:06 am to fillmoregandt
A reasonable choice for the 4wt. I own two 3s, a 5, and 8wt. I could easily see the need for a 4, 6, 8.
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