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Tell me about 45-70 Gov
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:13 am
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:13 am
This is just such a beautiful gun. It’s the new Ruger Marlin 1895 45-70 Gov. but other than it’s looks, I know nothing about it. Can someone clue me in before I impulse buy a gun I won’t enjoy shooting?
I want a lever action rifle. Just because. Maybe to shoot some hogs with but thatd be the extent of my hunting. And I have a sentimental affinity for Marlin Bc I grew up shooting my dad’s old Marlin .22.
Anyone have experience with a gun like this, and is 45-70 miserable to shoot? How does the recoil compare to .308?
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I want a lever action rifle. Just because. Maybe to shoot some hogs with but thatd be the extent of my hunting. And I have a sentimental affinity for Marlin Bc I grew up shooting my dad’s old Marlin .22.
Anyone have experience with a gun like this, and is 45-70 miserable to shoot? How does the recoil compare to .308?
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Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:19 am to biglego
I have a single shot cva with a heavy bergara barrel. It's not bad at all to shoot. Hornady lever revolution bullets are super accurate at 100 yds. I want a lever in 45-70, that one looks awesome.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:29 am to biglego
The new Marlin 1895 SBL is a looker.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
It’s gorgeous and I trust Ruger’s quality but I’ve got no experience with 45-70 and my only experience with a lever action is my shooting a few rounds of my friend’s 30-30.
I’d hate to spend $1100 on a rifle that’s not fun to shoot.
I’d hate to spend $1100 on a rifle that’s not fun to shoot.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:35 am to LEASTBAY
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It's not bad at all to shoot.
Is it comparable to .308? A little heavier kick?
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:35 am to biglego
I have a tc encore in 45-70 and it’s a thumper not unbearable but you know you shot it . I have three marlin 30-30s all pre Remington and I love the cartridge and the platform. Unless you are dead set on hunting dinosaurs (marlin catalog showed t-Rex as appropriate species) then I would look at a 30-30 or even 44mag lever gun instead of the 45-70.
Not sure how this year pans out but I have not seen a 45-70 bullet on a shelf in 1.5yrs and even then they are pricey compared to 30-30, 44mag.
As for recoil here’s from chuck hawks which is a good reference for recoil in pounds using the hardest recoiling of the listed caliber.
45-70- 37lbs
308- 17lbs
30-30- 13lbs.
Not sure how this year pans out but I have not seen a 45-70 bullet on a shelf in 1.5yrs and even then they are pricey compared to 30-30, 44mag.
As for recoil here’s from chuck hawks which is a good reference for recoil in pounds using the hardest recoiling of the listed caliber.
45-70- 37lbs
308- 17lbs
30-30- 13lbs.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:38 am to biglego
I think it all comes down to how heavy the rifle is. Mines probably pretty heavy so I don't feel a thing. CVA optima elite.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 10:45 am to biglego
This post was edited on 11/7/22 at 9:35 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:07 am to biglego
Love the gun.
Killed a buck at 150 with a Hornady round. Hit metal plates at 200 with it but I wouldn’t hunt at that distance.
Killed a few others with it. Great gun.
Killed a buck at 150 with a Hornady round. Hit metal plates at 200 with it but I wouldn’t hunt at that distance.
Killed a few others with it. Great gun.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:20 am to biglego
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I’d hate to spend $1100 on a rifle that’s not fun to shoot.
Yeah, I would not get one for a range gun. Its definitely a hunting rifle.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 11:33 am to biglego
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is 45-70 miserable to shoot? How does the recoil compare to .308?
I wouldn't say miserable, but it does kick a lot more, and costs more to shoot. It isn't a range toy for someone who doesn't reload.
Cool thing about 45-70 is it can be reloaded to .45 colt levels with cast bullets for cheap.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:09 pm to Buttoncollector
Thanks for the feedback, everyone. Y’all talked me out of buying it. The recoil and ammo availability/cost were the two things that gave me pause. I don’t like to deal with recoil. My 12 gauge literally gives me a headache after a couple shots so I’ve never ventured past .308.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:13 pm to biglego
Different round and model, but my old Marlin in 3030 is extremely fun to shoot. Love a lever action, as for recoil I can't imagine that round being too bad or comparable to a bolt action .308 but maybe I'm wrong. Then again I've never really cared about recoil too much.
ETA: apparently it does kick harder than a .308 is what the consensus in the thread is. Interesting, but I would imagine the ammo might be pricey.
ETA: apparently it does kick harder than a .308 is what the consensus in the thread is. Interesting, but I would imagine the ammo might be pricey.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:21 pm to biglego
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The recoil and ammo availability/cost were the two things that gave me pause
I started on a journey to build or buy a 300PRC a couple of months ago, and ended up with a .308 because the ammo availability and price.
Less than $1 a round vs $3+ for a round.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:25 pm to biglego
I have a Marlin JM guide gun in .45/70 with a Leupold VX3 1.5x6 on it that I hunt with. I also have a Henry single shot in .45/70 with the same scope for black powder season.
I do not plink with either, too expensive and not fun for that purpose.
Big difference in lower velocity rounds vs. higher velocity rounds as far as recoil goes, but not really bad. Not as sharp, seems like more of a hard push.
Very accurate round - I keep my distance under 150 yds. when hunting. Very hard hitting, but not a 200+ yd. round. I use custom rounds from Precision One Ammo - 300gr./2000 fps.
I do not plink with either, too expensive and not fun for that purpose.
Big difference in lower velocity rounds vs. higher velocity rounds as far as recoil goes, but not really bad. Not as sharp, seems like more of a hard push.
Very accurate round - I keep my distance under 150 yds. when hunting. Very hard hitting, but not a 200+ yd. round. I use custom rounds from Precision One Ammo - 300gr./2000 fps.
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 12:54 pm to biglego
I have a 45.70 CVA for primitive season. Have killed around a dozen deer with it. Great round but it thumps on recoil. I had a Marlin model 1895 I sold at the Wanamaker show in Tulsa 4 years ago for $500. Wish I could have that one back. Killed a few hogs with it. Great gun. Ruger quality should make this a great one. Buy if it hits your fancy.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 1:19 pm to biglego
Very limited range and kicks like an effing mule. I wouldn't spend much on one.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 2:12 pm to biglego
I would be patient, ruger will roll out more caliber options in lever action as they can. I have no idea why they chose 45-70 as the first one but whatever
If you need/want a lever now look at Henry.
That ruger looks incredible though I’d be tempted to wait
If you need/want a lever now look at Henry.
That ruger looks incredible though I’d be tempted to wait
This post was edited on 2/27/22 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 2/27/22 at 2:17 pm to greenbean
Yeah hopefully Ruger-Marlin will issue that same gorgeous gun in 30-30. That’ll be tits.
Posted on 2/27/22 at 2:37 pm to cgrand
I like the Ruger except for the safety. It makes the receiver looks stupid. I wish they did no safety like Henry or if there was possibly a way to do a tang safety.
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