re: State Record Typical?

quote:

---

Like others have said, the dude flew in on a private jet the day before went and sat in a blind where 20 baws had him positioned for the bucks undisturbed pattern and he just pulled the trigger.

---

Correct- a flew crew is actually jetted in the week before to make sure the celebrity will have a shot at it. They all do it. What hunting show have you seen where the main characters don't get a buck of a lifetime? Id love to shoot a buck like that but what goes into getting that pic is repulsive.

any single swinging dick from here to timbuktu would have shot that deer.

a rich man or poor man would have shot that deer.

i am more impressed with HB than tyler. HB actually put in the management plan in place and the work for tracking that deer. Tyler just showed up and shot it regardless of how much they paid.

could you make the argument that is it really free range if its 20K acres? absolutely you can but you can make the argument that it is a rich man's style of a free range deer hunt and seperate from the regular folk hunting.

if someone from catahoula killed that on their 300 acre family land that would've been very impressive

There is a whole lot of jealousy in this thread.

I don't know the details of the arrangement with real tree and HB or anyone else. Likely only no one in this thread does either.

Lots of speculation and judgement..

great deer that proves what great management can produce.

quote:

---

Do you think HB was specifically trying to grow a 200” deer

---

Not sure about a 200, but Drew made it no secret he wanted to grow a state record buck.

quote:

---

…or a canned hunt….

---

Was this a canned hunt? What does that mean?

quote:

---

Free range, low to no fence. Land borders I-185 on east side between Columbus and Lagrange. Realtree Farms and Jeff Foxworthy own just about all of the property on east side between exits 25 and 30. My cousin owns around 5ac directly across interstate on west side and they had one on camera pushing into 160's back earlier in the fall. That particular area of Harris County has the genetics even long before Bill Jordan and Realtree came along. They just allow them to grow and manage the property intensively.

---

thanks I remember watching an old interview with Bill talking about 9,000 acres he was hunting and talking how it had a major poaching problem and they were fencing the entire property the following year. For some reason I always thought that was real tree farms he was referring to. Granted this interview was like in 2002-2003 when monsters bucks was hitting its peak.

Seems like he is trying to say. Pre Processed. Pre Programmed. Highly mapped and patterned. Sit here and shoot him. No challenge. Just $$$$$

I explained it with no speculation or jealousy on page 2 I believe. All factual information. I know more details but it's not any one's business but HB and the Jordans to tell the story as they see fit. I will add a personal opinion to the conversation.

I FEEL that the board of directors that govern each "trophy" or "record" organization should take into deep consideration, to not include places like HB and prob 2-3 more I could name in Louisiana that I've been a part of and probably 100 plus in Texas that fall under geographical anomalies that allow them to fall under grey areas of "free range" "low fence" rules yet are "landlocked" for lack of a better term and have 90-100% control of population, Taking into consideration a multitude of factors from impassable man made structures, bodies of water, mountain ranges, total acreage, etc.

Not to discredit what they accomplished by no means the feat of a lifetime that money and influence made happen and that's just a factual truth. Not saying that's wrong or right, I'm saying there should be a category for those records and places too. Within an organization like SCI, B&C, P&Y, Buckmaster or whatever. Maybe broke down like---- Captive Records, Geo-captive records, Geo-free range records and then true Free Range records. And have hard fast definitions for those categories

Just my opinion and thoughts on what I feel the future should look like in this game. Because honestly when that deer was identified in 2021 with that potential with over 185". less than 50 people in America had a shot at it and more real only about 5 within the Realtree Organization were truly up to bat seeing it was already in house managed.

quote:

---

places like HB and prob 2-3 more

---

Is Rifle Point one of the places? I've know a few guys that have hunted there. I know its pretty swanky.

yea im not jealous either and i do see both sides of this threads views

however i will say that when i read that and saw "killed at HB lodge" i immediately lost all interest and was like "should've seen that coming" due to the resources that HB has available.

Happy for him but stevie wonder couldve seen that guy killing that deer at HB due to the resources that HB has.

If some coonass who was on his 2 weeks off from the oil rig or some 17 year old kid killed that at dewey or a 200 acre family land parcel this thread would've been congratulating him and filled with little to no jealousy/speculation and this thread would be going absolutely ape shite with good vibes