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bbvdd
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
Clamps are a must.

I have almost all Bessey k bodies. They are awesome but they are very expensive.


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MikeBRLA
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Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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I guess a table saw might be worth replacing the router table on the list.


A table saw is a must.


KG6
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Member since Aug 2009
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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A table saw is a must.


Does anyone have any recommendations on a particular saw for a starter. I'm seeing a few, then read they won't take a dado blade. Or they are pretty small portable ones that seem like they'd be difficult to handle larger plywood pieces. I'd like something easy to store and not break the bank.


Sigma
Michigan State Fan
Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3397 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
What’s your table saw budget?


KG6
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Member since Aug 2009
10739 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
I try not to look at things that way. If my budget is 250, but that just buys me something kind of shitty, then I just don't buy anything. If it takes 400 to buy something worth it, I'll hold off until I'm ready to spend that.

I want to spend as little as possible,while getting something I wont feel the need to upgrade in a year or two.


gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
3019 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
Personally, I'd stay away from the portable ones, especially if you are wanting to cut sheet good on it. They don't offer a stable footing and could move around, and that defeats the purpose of a table saw if wanting to make accurate cuts.

Hell, an older model Sear's Craftsman is a decent starter saw, will take a dado blade with an insert made for one and has served me well for the past 30 years. The only thing I changed out, besides blades over the years is I got a better fence for more accurate cuts and adapted it to the saw.


baseballmind1212
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Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
I've got the delta everyone keeps referencing.

36-075 I think.

It's an absolute besat. I made a router insert and a 4x6 out feed table. I can break down a full sheet of plywood wood no problem.

The router table insert is pretty awesome too. Stole the design off YouTube.

600 new at Lowe's. Got mine for 400 off Craigslist.


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KG6
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Member since Aug 2009
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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Personally, I'd stay away from the portable ones, 


I've got no place for one I cant put away on a shelf. No shed, just a garage we park in.


SmartTiger03
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New Orleans
Member since Aug 2013
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
1. Table saw is a must. It make the job so much easier. You want everything to be as straight as possible.
2. Planer. Being able to plane your facing and door material saves a ton of time.
3. Levels and framing square.

I will also suggest using white maple for your doors and facing. It’s a hard wood, so it hold up well to the wear and tear.


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Sigma
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Fairhope, AL
Member since Dec 2005
3397 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
Then your only option is a portable one. Cut your sheet goods to rough length with your circ saw and guide, then build a crosscut sled for the table saw to make your fine cuts.

Just find one with the biggest table available. The distance from the front of the table to the blade will determine the widest/longest crosscut you can accurately make with the sled.

Another alternative is to get a sliding miter saw. Check the max width of cut compared to the portable table saws.


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RemyLeBeau
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Member since Mar 2015
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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Track for circular saw to rip plywood


Are you referencing the Kreg track? I have one and it works. When I purchased this I also bought a dedicated circular saw to leave in the guide.

I also have a table saw and use it as well. The track saw works much better to cross rip a sheet of plywood, however to make several of the same smaller cuts, the table saw worked to make them faster.

Before buying the Kreg setup, I used a 50" straight edge clamp from Harbor Freight to make straight rips. I also have an 8 foot straight edge to use as a guide for ripping plywood lengthwise.

Don't skimp out on a good powerful circular saw. It is a noticeable difference between my "first" circular saw (budget Skilsaw) and my Porter Cable and Hitachi saws.

I also recommend adding at least 4 of the plastic foldable sawhorses. I have 6 of the ones with notches to place a 2x4 in to support plywood to make cuts. I also have a couple of homemade heavy 2x4/ 2x6 sawhorses for when I need clamping and added support.


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RemyLeBeau
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Member since Mar 2015
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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I try not to look at things that way. If my budget is 250, but that just buys me something kind of shitty, then I just don't buy anything. If it takes 400 to buy something worth it, I'll hold off until I'm ready to spend that.

I want to spend as little as possible,while getting something I wont feel the need to upgrade in a year or two.


Patience is a virtue when looking for tools. I found a RIGID table saw with a solid steel table and 50" capacity for $100. Had surface rust on the table, no miter guide, and needed a switch. So for an additional $40 and some elbow grease, I was able to get this thing operational.


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Hammertime
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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If you were starting, what tools would you really want?
Patience


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gumbo2176
Member since May 2018
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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've got no place for one I cant put away on a shelf. No shed, just a garage we park in.


Well, that kind of kills that idea. I'm lucky enough to have a large enough house to have about 800 sq. ft. of designated woodworking shop on my ground floor. If I didn't have that, I couldn't have the tools I have without building a shop for them.


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LA_KY
Louisville
Member since Mar 2018
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
A few random thoughts/tips. I’ve been woodworking for a few years now and fumbling my way through a lot of this without any sort of mentor. I don’t do cabinets, more-so furniture. My biggest piece of advice would be to not buy everything at the get go, just buy the few things you need for the project at hand. Many of my projects come with one or two new toys I “need” to get it done.

- Youtube is a great resource to learn, just remember that they’ll exclude/skip stuff in the videos often to make them more watchable.
- If you’re in a large city, look for “makers’ spaces” a lot of time you can rent time on a planer or jointer if needed.
- Router – get one, skip the table. When you need one, just drop a large hole in a board and connect your router to the bottom, add a fence if needed… Save money and space and skip the fancy table.
- Table saw - Lowes and home depot will break down sheets with reasonable accuracy. I stress reasonable…just know you’ll have to work to get it fine tunes so I always have them cut a bit long if I have to use them. This can help you get by without a table saw. A job-site/portable table saw can be very tricky vs. a full shop sized table saw. I have a portable and get by but would be really nice to have the weight and ingress/egress of a big one. Respect this tool, if you get lazy with safety on this it’s a great way to get hurt. Watch “table saw kick back” videos on youtube.
- Compound sliding Miter saw (aka “chop saw”) - The most used tool I have. If you’re doing cabinets this will be very nice to have for trim work.
- Nail gun - Depending on the project a battery operated can be super useful (Ryobi 16ga does nails and staples I think). Hammer and nail can obviously get you by without this.
- Clamps, figure out how many you need and buy twice that
- Don’t have a proper workbench? No problem, buy a couple of sawhorses and a good solid/heavy surface like MDF to toss on top. I have to use this often as I’m working outdoors typically.
- Eye/ear protection are no joke, you may think you’ll be ok, but it’s quite easy to get stuff in your eyes. If you’re doing something really sandy, like using a router, then a filter for your mouth may be warranted.
- Kreg Jigs – Get one. I agree with the comments that you don’t really “need” Kreg jigs, but man they make it a LOT easier to get started with this stuff. You’ll get to where you skip using them sometimes, but to get started and gain momentum/confidence I’d advise getting one. I used the kreg jig mini for a long time, and recently upgraded to the full ~$100 version. You can get by with the either, but the large one speeds things up considerably. Their clamps are also useful.
- Orbital sander – don’t underestimate the importance of properly finishing a project. Planning, cutting and assembling are often the fun parts, but finishing can be a bear. Take your time to sand properly and stain/paint properly. All your time and effort on the front end can be blown by rushing and skipping finishing steps.
- A long level, which can double as a straight edge.
- Save scrap wood, you’ll randomly need it to test finishes or build jigs.

Expect to make mistakes and have to alter plans due to a screw up, that’s half the fun.




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aTmTexas Dillo
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East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
182 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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I guess a table saw might be worth replacing the router table on the list. A little too pricey to get both. I could get by with my current router to do the limited rounding over I plan to do.

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My reasoning was that I had seen a lot of people getting by pretty easily with just the track saws. Also dont absolutely need dado joints, but figured I could get it done with the router as I'd like to include them. Sound like table saw is very useful though.



Boy I'm glad I purchased all this stuff over the years. Delta Unisaw, Delta bandsaw, Festool track saw, a Hammer Jointer/Planer, a General router table with a big ole Porter Cable 3 HP VS router and other stuff (12" DeWalt sliding compound miter saw). I hate to think of what all that stuff costs including the four or five Forrest Woodworker, Chopmaster and Dado blades. It was thousands of bucks and I cringe to think about it. Recently I got the $140 Kreg pocket hole system. You have to get one of those. You can then forget about dado and some mortise and tenon joinery.


Clames
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Member since Oct 2010
9395 posts

re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
Get refurbished tools and check out pawn shops, save a lot of money. Something that often gets looked over is measuring and layout tools. Stanley and Milwaukee 25' standard tape measures are great, no need to spend more than $10 on one. Johnson Polycast levels (torpedo, 2', 4'), small and large speed squares, aluminun yard stick, miter gauge, and pencils. Lots of pencils and a good electric sharpener. Sounds odd but I have three Boston sharpeners (workshop, work vehicle, office) and bought a 100-count box of pencils a few years ago. You can whittle sharp points but when doing cabinets and larger projects it's a lot faster to just use a sharpener and you get a better point than you'll ever get with a knife.


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canyon
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Member since Dec 2003
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
Yeah but does your new light attract more fish or fishermen?


aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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re: Starting Woodworking, what should I get?
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Yeah but does your new light attract more fish or fishermen?



Neither, which is good on the one hand but sorry on the other.


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