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Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:47 am to DrTyger
DrTyger, I a'int no girl, I shoot my Mag 10 for geese all the time. Just like to shoot a 20 sometimes.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:48 am to Vlad
I'm thinking about buying a 28 gauge before dove season
Posted on 8/22/14 at 9:55 am to yellowfin
i've been eyeing a BPS 28Ga for a while. Would be perfect for woodcock and rabbit. Not so sure about doves, but i have a 20 for that.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:45 am to lv2bowhntAU
To be honest, unless you are hunting in timber where the ducks are right on you or you are using a really tight choke and are a crack shot I find using a 20 gauge for ducks almost unethical. Towards the end of the season the birds are usually so weary in the areas that I hunt that your close shots are at 30 yrds. Unless you are a small fella auto 12s dont really kick that hard with 2 3/4 or 3".
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:48 am to yellowfin
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I'm thinking about buying a 28 gauge before dove season
Get an o/u with 30" barrels...
Posted on 8/22/14 at 10:51 am to wickowick
I sometimes hate myself for talking my dad out of buying me an 870 wingmaster 28ga
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:12 am to lv2bowhntAU
I can't shoot worth a shite anymore, but from 10-17 years old, I busted some canard arse in the marsh off the Boston canal with my little 20 guage 1100.
**lead shot was the tits
**lead shot was the tits
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:30 am to yellowfin
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I'm thinking about buying a 28 gauge before dove season
DO IT!!!
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:34 am to DrTyger
quote:and there's the main reason for shooting 3.5's.
Not me because I'm not a 12 year old girl.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 11:47 am to GREENHEAD22
quote:I used to have this thought as well but that Tungsten Matrix is some bad shite. Yeah, its pricey as hell and 9 bucks a volley will add up quick but I have seen it roll out some birds well past 30 yards. In the timber, he shoots whatever is cheapest. In the pit or a diver shoot in open water, nothing but TM!
I find using a 20 gauge for ducks almost unethical.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:00 pm to GREENHEAD22
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I find using a 20 gauge for ducks almost unethical
I'd suggest using the science of ballistics to make this argument, not shotgun gauge. There are many, many 20 gauge loads that are ballistically superior to often used 12 gauge loads.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:06 pm to CFDoc
Yea if your using the TM or heavy metal stuff that essentially acts like lead or even better than lead then I agree. Shooting big ducks at 30-30 yrds using steel isnt ideal to say the least. Most ppl arent ponying up the 40$ a box if I had to guess.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:14 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Shooting big ducks at 30-30 yrds using steel isnt ideal to say the least. Most ppl arent ponying up the 40$ a box if I had to guess.
Even still. 1-1/4 oz. steel 12 gauge loads are very commonly used for big ducks beyond 30 yards with very little questioning of ethics. I've patterned and ballistic gel'd many of these loads at that range. There is ample penetration for a well centered shot.
That being said, a 1-1/4 oz. steel 20 gauge load is very common and not at all out of the price range of most duck hunters. And it's ballistically equivalent to the 12 gauge.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:16 pm to GREENHEAD22
At 30 yards a 20 with the correct choke is better than my Benelli SBE 12 at 30 yards with the shite pattern it throws with the chokes it came with..PETA should sue Benelli for that garbage.
I got it better now, but damn that shotgun blows.
I got it better now, but damn that shotgun blows.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:17 pm to CFDoc
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That being said, a 1-1/4 oz. steel 20 gauge load is very common and not at all out of the price range of most duck hunters. And it's ballistically equivalent to the 12 gauge.
How is that possible, not arguing, just don't follow how the same velocity is obtained.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:23 pm to lv2bowhntAU
i wouldnt mind having an xplor. these are so sick
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:26 pm to Carson123987
For upland and skeet I would love the Benelli Cordoba.
Posted on 8/22/14 at 12:30 pm to tigerfoot
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How is that possible, not arguing, just don't follow how the same velocity is obtained.
It's a detailed answer, but you can vary shot sizes and muzzle velocites such that penetration depths are very similar for different gauges at a given distance.
I'll try to remember to post up some of my ballistics charts when I get home tonight.
Also, duckhuntingchat.com has extensive testing on a lot of duck loads for various gauges. Look up posts from a user by the name of "Joe Hunter." The TL;DR version of his studies are that gauge is almost insignificant when you factor in shot quality, pattern percentages, muzzle velocity, etc. There are many 20 gauge loads that perfrom as well, if not better, than many 12 gauge loads.
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