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re: Snake ID please

Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:26 am to
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:26 am to
I am pretty sure it is a water snake, but why is he so not flat and headed?

I think we should kill all of em until they quit trying to be something they are not.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:32 am to
quote:

but that head aint right.
Look closely at pic 1. That is classic nerodia. 2 is as well when they puff up. What you don't see is the classic stripe across the head like,

Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:35 am to
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the classic stripe across the head


not sure i see the stripes you're referring to? Under the head?
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:45 am to
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The head outline in the second pic tells me it's a CM


Those water snakes will flatten their heads out like that when they get startled.

ETA It is usually inadvisable for an everyday person to get close enough to a water snake or a mocassin for the common man to be able to tell the difference via a picture.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 11:49 am
Posted by TheBoo
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:05 pm to
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This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:30 pm to
From the eye rearward.
Posted by tenfoe
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 12:58 pm to
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ETA It is usually inadvisable for an everyday person to get close enough to a water snake or a mocassin for the common man to be able to tell the difference via a picture.


Why not? You can walk faster than either can move. Walk up to him and check him out.
Posted by UPT
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 2:46 pm to
For the amount of time some people on this board claim to spend outside, very few seem to know shite about snakes.

Why would anyone post that this snake was a water snake without being 100% sure? It clearly is not, it's very clearly a Water Moccasin, and this guy's wife could have gotten fricked up with that bad info.
Posted by skullraker
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Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:00 pm to
My $ on CM. To me the flattened body lends itself more to CM than WS. I will say that his banding is rather prominent for a mature CM (usually look more black when they get bigger/older, bands fade). Either way; he's a dead serpent if I encounter him.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

Why would anyone post that this snake was a water snake without being 100% sure?
Good question, but it absolutely is.

quote:

It clearly is not, it's very clearly a Water Moccasin
Not only is it not clearly a water moccasin, it's not a water moccasin at all.
Posted by FutureMikeVIII
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Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:26 pm to
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For the amount of time some people on this board claim to spend outside, very few seem to know shite about snakes.


Look in the mirror, buddy. You’re throwing a lot of shade for a dude that clearly doesn’t “know shite about snakes.”

It’s a banded water snake. Be better.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 3:27 pm to
For the amount of confidence some people seem to have, why the hell would anyone post their answer while being 100% wrong?

quote:

and this guy's wife could have gotten fricked up with that bad info.


No, because she had it killed before the post was even made.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by UPT
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:12 pm to
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but it absolutely is.


No, it absolutely is not.
Posted by NOLAGT
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:23 pm to
Yea the pattern was screaming banded watersnake but what was getting me was the shade of the head. Was just looking CMish from the pic. I would put monies on a banded water snake.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 4:25 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
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Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:24 pm to
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the shade of the head
Yeah, saw that. Shape in pic one is dead give away though. CM can't make that shape.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:27 pm to
Oh, and look at tail length. Cottons of that size don't have that.


Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:27 pm to
quote:

For the amount of time some people on this board claim to spend outside, very few seem to know shite about snakes.

Why would anyone post that this snake was a water snake without being 100% sure? It clearly is not, it's very clearly a Water Moccasin, and this guy's wife could have gotten fricked up with that bad info.

it is 100 percent a water snake.

Way to go w the bullshite intro though.
Posted by UPT
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Member since May 2009
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:30 pm to
quote:

Yea the pattern was screaming banded watersnake


It really matters geographically where this picture was taken.

These snakes patterns change wildly depending on location and age.
Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:31 pm to
Doesn't matter, it's not a cotton mouth.
Posted by Jack Daniel
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 4:32 pm to
Kill it just for looking like a moccasin
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