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re: Snake ID please
Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:13 am to Huey Lewis
Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:13 am to Huey Lewis
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On the off chance it's a water snake, let his gruesome death be a lesson to the rest of his kind not to look so much like a water moccasin.
This. I hate how similar they can look. I kill indiscriminately to be sure
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Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:13 am to LSUsmartass
The head outline in the second pic tells me it's a CM, I could be wrong
Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:22 am to Barneyrb
This is the exact example of the snake that will be treated as a venomous one regardless, esp holding it's head at 45*
Would be treated as a moccasin regardless if it is a diamond back water snake
Would be treated as a moccasin regardless if it is a diamond back water snake
Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:27 am to LSUsmartass
water snake
Posted on 5/20/21 at 8:47 am to LSUsmartass
Next time flip it over and take a pic of the belly.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:01 am to LSUsmartass
I agree with the water snake ID. He has his head flattened out but the shape of the nose end is still too rounded to be a moccasin. Sad. Old guy lost his life just trying to find a frog.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:10 am to Boudreaux35
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He has his head flattened out but the shape of the nose end is still too rounded to be a moccasin.
Evolution made him look like a Cottonmouth for deterrence. But evolution just got him killed.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:11 am to Huey Lewis
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Looks like a water moccasin. On the off chance it's a water snake, let his gruesome death be a lesson to the rest of his kind not to look so much like a water moccasin
It's not a water snake. It's a pit viper with that triangle head. I believe it is a water moccasin. It's been forever since I've seen one but I thought they were more gray which is why I confused it with a copperhead previously.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:18 am to Landmass
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It's a pit viper with that triangle head.
Many species of snakes can flatten their heads to mimic that triangular shape associated with pit vipers. That is NOT a good identifying criteria.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 9:24 am
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:21 am to Boudreaux35
Feeling like a banded watersnake from those 2 pics. I can see a argument for CM but I still think banded.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:38 am to NOLAGT
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Feeling like a banded watersnake
Sent photo to LA Snake ID, he confirmed your opinion.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 10:53 am
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:39 am to LSUsmartass
Water but I’d still chop chop.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 9:53 am to LSUsmartass
I understand why this was difficult for many, but it really should not be. A cottonmouth is going to have in tact bands all the way down the body. They will almost never have just a single stripe. Plus, the head is all wrong. Pic #1 is classic water snake profile and a cotton mouth is incapable of making that shape. Pic two is what you get from an alarmed water snake.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:07 am to LSUsmartass
thats one of the bad ones
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:26 am to LSUsmartass
water moccasin 100%. Mask around the eyes is a dead give away. Shape of the head means nothing when it comes to telling the difference between it and a water snake.
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:26 am to AlxTgr
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A cottonmouth is going to have in tact bands all the way down the body. They will almost never have just a single stripe.
Can you expound on this? I searched images for both but couldn't see what you posted. What am I missing? I would love to find a quicker way to ID these. Any help would be appreciated.
google image search for banded water snake
google image search for cottonmouth
Posted on 5/20/21 at 10:53 am to 21zereaux
See the overall pattern of the band here:
Those continue all the way down the snake like this juvi:
The snake in the OP has none of these, and has several areas of a single stripe instead of the patterned stripe of a cotton mouth.
Those continue all the way down the snake like this juvi:
The snake in the OP has none of these, and has several areas of a single stripe instead of the patterned stripe of a cotton mouth.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:02 am to AlxTgr
Got it; thank you very much. I appreciate it.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:07 am to 21zereaux
I don't kill many snakes but if I can't tell what it is quickly it is dead.
The snake in the OP would be dead if I found it. No need to study it very long and let it slip away to scare the crap out of the family another day.
The snake in the OP would be dead if I found it. No need to study it very long and let it slip away to scare the crap out of the family another day.
Posted on 5/20/21 at 11:21 am to AlxTgr
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Banded water snake
colors match, but that head aint right.
im going Cottonmouth
ETA - i see experts disagree. would've fooled me
This post was edited on 5/20/21 at 11:23 am
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