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re: Shorter deer seasons, lower limits eyed by LDWF
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:43 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
Posted on 8/20/15 at 8:43 pm to FelicianaTigerfan
There is a reason a lot of leases north of Jackson want nothing to do with LA hunters.
May be a shitty logic and you might disagree but its the truth.
May be a shitty logic and you might disagree but its the truth.
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Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:13 pm to Purple Spoon
Shortening the season or reducing tags won't do a thing. All that it will do is penalize the ones not doing wrong. There are people that shoot deer 12 months out of the year. How will this stop them? As far as making it more like Missouri, Illinois or places like that, it won't happen. The food sources are not here. Dr. James Kroll did a test to see what benefitted antler growth more, food or genetics. People need to read that. You also have to take into account terrain. I've hunted Illinois and those deer can't move hardly without being seen. I shoot one or two deer a year for the simple fact that's all my family consumes but I'm not going push my views on someone else trying to show I'm right and they're wrong. I don't know of anyone that has trouble seeing deer so it seems to me people either need to devote more time or find more land.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:19 pm to TigerDeacon
frick everything to do with this whole thread.
Quit fricking with the rules until you can enforce the ones you have now
Quit fricking with the rules until you can enforce the ones you have now
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:26 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I would think deer herd enforcement takes a back seat to ducks and fishing in LA.
The state would have to dedicate more funds toward enforcement befor real gains are made.
The state would have to dedicate more funds toward enforcement befor real gains are made.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 9:40 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Pathetic.
frick everything to do with this whole thread. Quit fricking with the rules until you can enforce the ones you have now
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:10 pm to GREENHEAD22
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6 point or better or something along those lines.
Horrible guidelines when trying to manage deer and create a trophy herd, which I know is tough to do in louisiana with the massive amount of "brown it's down" hunters. The "brown it's down" hunting culture is a problem.
Leaving inferior deer out due to bad guidelines doesn't do any good either. Literature teaching people proper methods on aging deer and how to spot what needs to be culled would help substantially.
Another problem I see are old school hunters that shoot bucks just to say they shoot bucks. I never understand the mindset behind shooting an 80-100 pound buck. Just shoot a doe at that point.
Most hunting land is improperly managed with a substantial percentage of the deer being killed under the age of 2.5 years old.
It will take time and hunters coming together as a whole promoting good practices and removing that "well if I pass on it the next guy will shoot it" attitude.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:21 pm to Scrowe
Anybody over 18 who revels in the glory of killing anything less than a buck that's going on the wall is a sad arse excuse. Grown men shooting spikes and four points is just sad. Until we grow up in this State, we will never have crap. The thug factor is also strong here. A couple of idiots were arrested a few days ago in Grant Parish for shooting a big nine point, in August, at night, and they left it to rot. 
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:36 pm to PinevilleTiger
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Grown men shooting spikes and four points is just sad.
Both are justifiable in certain situations. I believe we are on the same page though of what you are describing.
I do enjoy shooting cull bucks, but it's for the greater good of improving the gene pool.
That's a sad story though, to leave the deer to rot.
Posted on 8/20/15 at 10:38 pm to Bass_Man
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I think they need to revamp the tagging system to get better info before any drastic measures are taken.
Yeah like making it mandatory to turn your tags in used or unused. Charge $10 extra for next years tags if the last year's were not turned in.
I my area we have a lot of deer but I do think Coyotes and Bobcats get a lot of fawns. I have never hunted an area with so many maiden does.
It wouldn't bother me at all to cut the bucks down to two per year.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:02 am to PinevilleTiger
Hey buddy, who cornbread frick are you to judge what a man shoots and doesn't shoot within the law?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:26 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
He's diagnosing the problem. And it's people like you
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:35 am to Jack Daniel
Nah. I hate to bust your bubble, but I hardly think it's "people like me" creating this "problem" that doesn't exist.
This isn't buckmasters, it's Louisiana. Not everyone's crappy 60 acre pine tree lease with 10 people hunting on it is going to have pope and young class bucks on it, no matter what you or your neighbor shoot or don't shoot.
This isn't buckmasters, it's Louisiana. Not everyone's crappy 60 acre pine tree lease with 10 people hunting on it is going to have pope and young class bucks on it, no matter what you or your neighbor shoot or don't shoot.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 6:42 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I agree this state has its limits on what it can produce based on food sources and habitat but it can improve drastically. And the way to improve it is quit letting dumb rednecks sit in the woods for 3 solid months with a high powered rifle that can shoot any deer in sight within 250 yards.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 7:31 am to Scrowe
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Both are justifiable in certain situations. I believe we are on the same page though of what you are describing.
I do enjoy shooting cull bucks, but it's for the greater good of improving the gene pool.
This is another thing. The "cull buck" phenomenon. People see an ugly rack and think cull. That is just not accurate. From guys like Dr. Grant Woods, you don't know a deer's true potential until age 4. Shooting an ugly rack does not improve heard genetics! Those genes are in the does and other good bucks.
Feed >>> genetics when it comes to quality deer management
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:05 am to mylsuhat
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:07 am to Jack Daniel
Nahhhhh
Maybe you'd like to be like those northern states with a two week deer season, but I would not. I have a big lease with a bunch of very good people who shoot what they want. We kill nice deer for the area on a consistent basis, and I personally do not want the state stepping over our own rules because some pine tree people are bitching about their neighbors shooting spikes.
And besides all of that, I've still never heard anybody answer the question of how do you know what does to shoot? Do you check their DNA or tag their fawns to know which ones are producing big bucks?
Maybe you'd like to be like those northern states with a two week deer season, but I would not. I have a big lease with a bunch of very good people who shoot what they want. We kill nice deer for the area on a consistent basis, and I personally do not want the state stepping over our own rules because some pine tree people are bitching about their neighbors shooting spikes.
And besides all of that, I've still never heard anybody answer the question of how do you know what does to shoot? Do you check their DNA or tag their fawns to know which ones are producing big bucks?
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:13 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I would like to be similar to those states with a shorter RIFLE season. I would like to see the bow season go from october to february but the rifle season 2-4 weeks. If you cant kill all the faws and yearlings you want in 2-4 weeks, oh well. I guess youll have to starve.
Genetics you can't control, but you can control how old the deer are before they die.
Genetics you can't control, but you can control how old the deer are before they die.
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:36 am to Jack Daniel
I could easily kill 6 deer a year with a cross bow.
Give me a pallet of rice bran and I can probably do it in 6 days
Give me a pallet of rice bran and I can probably do it in 6 days
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:40 am to Jack Daniel
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And the way to improve it is quit letting dumb rednecks sit in the woods for 3 solid months with a high powered rifle that can shoot any deer in sight within 250 yards.
I like rifle season, but I wouldn't be opposed to it being adjusted less dramatically. With the exception of clear cuts (which is not this states natural terrain and landscape) there are very few places in the state where 250 yard shots are possible. If the sugarcane industry magically turned into a consumable for wildlife, This state would produce more deer like those top tier states.
I personally don't find a lot of the deer you see killed on tv that impressive when this is the tract of land being hunted.Doesn't take a hell of a lot of effort to figure out where that 170" deer is hiding out that you have 15 trail cam pics of him
Posted on 8/21/15 at 8:46 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Biologist told an acquaintance who has a large lease in Texas that you should shoot the does with button buck yearlings, as opposed to does. Said that the button bucks mostly relocate when mature - kind of natures way to prevent too much inbreeding. I guess if you shoot the mamas, then the young bucks will stay in the area.
how do you know what does to shoot
Don't know how much truth there is to this theory - just thought I'd share.
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