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re: Share your experiences with the famous Ford Six Leaker Diesel

Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:55 pm to
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
49830 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 10:55 pm to
Aluminium tank issue.

I work alot with the owner of RAM welding "Tony" here in my industrial area for my business. RAM Welding also specializes in the fabrication aluminum marine fuel tanks. I am at Tony's shop pretty often and it amazes me to see the condition of some of the old aluminum fuel tanks I see there which come out of all different types of boats. Moisture is the enemy of aluminum fuel tanks. Tanks will corrode in different places, depending on where they are subjected to constant contact with moisture. For example, on my 20 Shamrock the fuel tanks usually corrode on the bottom as they are foamed into the hull compartment at the bottom. Water penetrates into the fuel tank compartment from the deck above and the water travels and is trapped at the bottom of the tank by the foam used. The fuel tank pictured below came out of a Mako, and all of the corrosion is on the top of the tank, as the deck above leaked and water collected on the top. This tank actually has 6 holes completely opened up. As you can see the gray primer that this tank came with when new did absolutely nothing to stop the corrosion. When installing a new fuel tank, it should be painted with the proper type primer/epoxy paint OR powder coated as per Tony's recommendation. I have seen coal tar type paint used by boat builders - I cant speak as to the merits of that as I am not familiar. Take a look at these pics and imagine what could have happened to this boater . LINK
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:29 pm to
I bought an '05 super crew dually in '08 for $13K, spent about $4K on it including replacing the head gaskets, head studs, oil cooler, deleting the EGR, replacing the FICM, and adding a programmer. I've put 120K miles on it since then without issue, and quite frankly, it's the best running diesel I've had (post bulletproofing).

IOW if you have some money to put into it up front to bulletproof it, I would jump on a deal.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 11:41 pm
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 4/8/13 at 11:40 pm to
quote:

TutHillTiger

Regarding Optimax, I have run the hell out of an '06 without one single issue, ever. I work out of town for months on end, and then when I'm off, I may fish 3 times/week for a couple months. I have NEVER had to wait on that thing to start, and it runs like a friggin beast. I particularly enjoyed it when fishing redfish tourneys pulling away from identical boats with Yamaha of the same HP.

The early Opti's were better known as Opti Pops, just like the Yammies with the same technology in their early days...HPDI? But I can tell you for a fact the '06-present Optis are awesome motors.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:18 am to
Yea 4k seems like a huge pile of money at first glance but in the long run. It doesn't seem bad.

My biggest problem would be finding somebody I trusted to do that kind of serious work. That's a whole bunch of nickels.
Posted by CurDog
Member since Jan 2007
28157 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:29 am to
i had an 05. i loved it. the only real problem i had was the oil cooler, but it was replaced under warrenty
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:32 am to
I've always wanted to get a tool truck. Engine-driven welding machine/generator, compressor, lift, hose-making equipment, bench vise, a bunch of cones, a lift and mud tires so I can get where I need to go, and every tool imaginable
Posted by Fifthstring
Out There
Member since Jul 2006
664 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:35 am to
The Opti's are still fighting the issue into the 2011 models... it seems to be those of us running in shallow water trying to get to reds. I know multiple people who popped theirs after churning in shallow water the day before... all have been consistently told it has something to do with a filter on the compressor getting clogged
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 7:59 am to
They tend to be a tad heavy for mud
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39578 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:10 am to
The only decent Ford diesel is the the one they are selling right now; the 6.7.

Not a fan of the 6.0 or the 7.3.

On the 6.7, they spent a ton on R&D and I think they got it right.
I love the Duramax-Allison combo, but the rest of the truck is dated and the crappy interior bits irritate me.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:12 am to
I knew this one crew that had a bad arse one, but they had a set of folding steps to get into it. It was basically like a tree trimming crew truck jacked up and 10wd with a huge hydraulic winch up front
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8501 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:15 am to
Curious but why no love for the 7.3? Sure they're underpowered by today's standards but their reliability is legendary...then again maybe the fact that they are underpowered is what makes them so reliable.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:25 am to
Because all of the 7.3's on this earth right now are 10 years old or older and it's damn near impossible to find a low miles one in good shape.

6.0's on the other hand can be found all day around 100k miles and in very good shape selling for well below blue book.

Fantastic engines, but the glory days of the 7.3's and 5.9's are long long gone and likely to never return. Just like the days of 3 pedals and a stick shift ( )

Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39578 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:26 am to
I've seem some good ones, but I've also seen some with crazy issues no one could fix.
Duramax is/was way better, IMHO.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:27 am to


That's pretty sweet.

I'd like to have something like that, but that would get me into deep trouble.
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39578 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:28 am to
If you had a low-mile Excursion 7.3 for sale, you could get that new liver with $$ left over.
Posted by Fishhead
Elmendorf, TX
Member since Jan 2008
12502 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:29 am to
quote:

The Opti's are still fighting the issue into the 2011 models... it seems to be those of us running in shallow water trying to get to reds


Yeah, I never do anything like that lol
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:30 am to


I found an 03 6 leaker 4x4 in texas with 61,000 miles and a 6 speed. Damn thing looks brand new.

Damnit I wish I wasn't scared of 6.0's
Posted by N2cars
Member since Feb 2008
39578 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:37 am to
That's like a stripper in dim light after a few beers.

Looks good to 'til you get her home in the daylight.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
72080 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:39 am to
If I could afford the damn thing and the shite I'd have to do to it I'd buy it.

I want a mother fricking standard transmission and damnit I will go to the moon if I have to in order to get one.

And if that doesn't work I'll :yak: buy a dodge
Posted by TexasTiger
Katy TX
Member since Sep 2003
5343 posts
Posted on 4/9/13 at 8:43 am to
quote:

I want a mother fricking standard transmission and damnit I will go to the moon if I have to in order to get one.

And if that doesn't work I'll :yak: buy a dodge


5.9 Cummins with 6 speed standard are pulling top dollar in my area... Its like the 7.3 for the ford followers..
This post was edited on 4/9/13 at 8:53 am
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