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Share your experiences with the famous Ford Six Leaker Diesel
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:43 pm
I was having a drunken debate the other night about whether or not the cheap ford 6.0's that have flooded the truck market are a steal or just a bunch of ticking time bombs
What say you OB? They can be found listed for $5k under blue book all day.
What say you OB? They can be found listed for $5k under blue book all day.
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Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:44 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I won't touch em with a 10 ft pole.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
That 5K savings is what is needed to fix the trucks correctly and by that deleting the EGR.
The 6.0 is actually a great motor as evidenced by its performance in ambulances and small buses. Those were excluded from the govt mandate that forced Ford to put EGR systems on the motors that leads to problems
Ford, meanwhile knew enough testing was NOT done on the 6.0 with all the new pollution controls and still sold it to the public.
I have one......2006 bone stock...have had no problem but am religious about fuel, oil and all other fluid changes. The truck is cold natured and all fluids must be kept clean.
The 6.0 is actually a great motor as evidenced by its performance in ambulances and small buses. Those were excluded from the govt mandate that forced Ford to put EGR systems on the motors that leads to problems
Ford, meanwhile knew enough testing was NOT done on the 6.0 with all the new pollution controls and still sold it to the public.
I have one......2006 bone stock...have had no problem but am religious about fuel, oil and all other fluid changes. The truck is cold natured and all fluids must be kept clean.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 3:51 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:50 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
My parents got one to replace my dad's 7.3 liter, still have the 7.3, the 6 leaker not so much.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:50 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
What say you OB? They can be found listed for $5k under blue book all day
As stated this cost saving is quickly eaten up with what it takes to "bullet proof" the 6.0
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:52 pm to MoreOrLes
So you think that removing the EGR makes them as reliable as you can expect a modern diesel to be?
My buddy was saying that they are bombs, and I was saying they are no less reliable than what's being put on the road today, especially with the EGR issues corrected, the occasional Italian tuneup, and good maintenance.
Eta: don't worry. I won't show him this thread if it doesn't go my way
My buddy was saying that they are bombs, and I was saying they are no less reliable than what's being put on the road today, especially with the EGR issues corrected, the occasional Italian tuneup, and good maintenance.
Eta: don't worry. I won't show him this thread if it doesn't go my way
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 3:53 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:53 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The head studs is the major issue with the 6.0.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:54 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
I mean if you put head studs, delete the egr, amongst other things it makes it pretty damn reliable, however after you put all that money in them, you'd be better off getting a better truck for the same money.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:56 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Funny, I work at the city public safety garage. We have a F-350 with a six in it.
Only has 20k miles on it and the damned thing keeps filling the oil pan with diesel. It has had 2 oil pumps put in it. It is back at the dealership now for the same issue.
Wanna know what the Ford Rep told us to do?
Change the oil every 1000 miles and it will be ok...
The have had it for about 2 weeks now and they still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with it.
Only has 20k miles on it and the damned thing keeps filling the oil pan with diesel. It has had 2 oil pumps put in it. It is back at the dealership now for the same issue.
Wanna know what the Ford Rep told us to do?
Change the oil every 1000 miles and it will be ok...
The have had it for about 2 weeks now and they still can't figure out what the hell is wrong with it.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 3:59 pm to JAB528
Well I mean putting $5k in just about any engine should make it plenty reliable if that's what you shot for.
I'm talking very modest work.
I'm talking very modest work.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:00 pm to Slinger16
Wow
16qts of oil every 1000 miles? Sounds cool
16qts of oil every 1000 miles? Sounds cool
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:02 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Yeah, my boss made the guy repeat himself 3 times when he said that.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:05 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
A coworker bought a King Ranch with the 6.0. I asked if he was aware of the issues. He said yes.
But it has 167,000 miles and is still running strong. He probably just lucked out.
But it has 167,000 miles and is still running strong. He probably just lucked out.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:05 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
I'm talking very modest work
The 6.0 needs more than modest work to make it reliable.. There are good ones on the market, but man there are a lot of bad ones.
If you could find one 10-12K under blue book and took half the savings and put it in the motor then you would have found a deal. Or just keep the savings and wait for it to give you issues. then put the money in to it.
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:07 pm to Kcrad
I had a buddy who put 180k on an 04 before he had problems with it.
Now when it went it went hard. FICM, HPOP, turbo, EGR, and I think the PCM all crashed within a year.
Now when it went it went hard. FICM, HPOP, turbo, EGR, and I think the PCM all crashed within a year.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:09 pm to TexasTiger
It's pretty funny that 2002 fords are being sold for more than 2003-06 fords.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:15 pm to TexasTiger
I can tell you exactly what needed for the 6.0 to be the truck every owner thought they were getting in the first place.
Cab Off
ARP Head Studs and Gasket
EGR delete (welded shut)
SCT tuner (This will tune not only engine but also trans.)
Guages
Change oil cooler and Hpop screen while your in there
Latest Ficm Flash
New bigger banjo fittings for injectors.
Coolant Flush with distilled water and replace coolant with ELF coolant.
Coolant by pass filter
Oil bypass filter
4" Turbo back exhaust for better breathing.
All of that will run you about 5K IF ..........IF you drive the truck in before there is a problem.
Do all that you will have a reliable truck for many miles
Cab Off
ARP Head Studs and Gasket
EGR delete (welded shut)
SCT tuner (This will tune not only engine but also trans.)
Guages
Change oil cooler and Hpop screen while your in there
Latest Ficm Flash
New bigger banjo fittings for injectors.
Coolant Flush with distilled water and replace coolant with ELF coolant.
Coolant by pass filter
Oil bypass filter
4" Turbo back exhaust for better breathing.
All of that will run you about 5K IF ..........IF you drive the truck in before there is a problem.
Do all that you will have a reliable truck for many miles
This post was edited on 4/8/13 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:16 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
03 04 and 05 6.0's had more trouble than did the 06 and 07's
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:19 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
So you think that removing the EGR makes them as reliable as you can expect a modern diesel to be?
The jury is still out on Fords new diesels they have not been out long enough IMO.
Posted on 4/8/13 at 4:22 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
It's pretty funny that 2002 fords are being sold for more than 2003-06 fords.
I once owned the rarest of them all...a 03 F350 with the 7.3.
As for a 6.0, I'm no fan. Granted doing all the work like mentioned above should take care of any issues, I don't want to have to dump $5k into a new to me truck for it to be reliable.
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