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SDS, G-force, JTS. Are any of these "tacticool" cheap 12 gauges any good?

Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:40 am
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:40 am
There are pistol grip pumps, bullpup semi-autos, pistol grip semis...etc. All over websites and gunshops for $209 to $350 depending on brand.

Are ANY of these worth the money just to have? I don't have a 12 gauge I can shoot, wanting one just to have it. I do have my grandfather's 1943 Ithaca double barrel, but it needs reblued before I could shoot it. And it kicks like a fricking mammoth jackstock donkey.

I won't be hunting with it, would just be shooting it on occasion for fun. Or would maybe grab it if someone broke in.

I saw a Charles Daly M4 Benelli clone yesterday for $550 at a shop, and thought about it. But thats still $300 more than the lower end of these offbrand Turkish guns. And those still apparently have issues.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5858 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:47 am to
Absolutely not. JTS is hot garbage. Made in china actually. Most box mag fed shotguns are actually garbage. Get a turkish one if you have to have it but DO NOT get a JTS.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:53 am to
Go to a pawn shop and buy a decent brand.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:22 am to
Go get a Mossberg Maverick 88 Tactical.

I've had a Maverick 88 (not the tac version) in 20 ga for a few years now and it's a great "value" shotgun. I bought it for home defense for my wife because she is not comfortable shooting full size handguns and her Bodyguard 380 just isn't enough power for a HD gun in my opinion. So I bought that and took her to the range with it and she loves it. I loved it too and went and got myself a 12 ga a couple months after buying hers .

Like I said, they're a great value for a shotgun in the $300 range. If I'm not mistaken you can get a non tactical version (no pistol grip or folding stock) for less than $300.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Member since Dec 2006
89481 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:32 am to
If you're on a budget and in the market for a tactical shotgun, there is a budget-friendly company who specializes in just that market and they have both law enforcement and military customers who are very satisfied (as well as a dizzying array of satisfied civilian customers, a robust third party accessory support and massive user base with online forums, information exchange, etc.)

Hint: It both rhymes with Mossberg and is Mossberg.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 11:34 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27349 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:38 am to
Get a maverick 88

Seriously

200 bucks
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 11:39 am
Posted by Stexas
SWLA
Member since May 2013
5992 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:42 am to
quote:

Go get a Mossberg

This is statement right here should give you your answer. A Mossberg is better than all of the options you listed. A friggen Mossberg.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 11:52 am to
quote:

A friggen Mossberg.



Yeah, but I'll tell you what, that Maverick 88 is fun to take out and shoot at random stuff. I've never had any issues with either the 20 or the 12 gauges I have. They're also compatible with Mossberg 500 (or 590 can't remember) barrels and Accu-Choke chokes. The damn things field strip for cleaning by taking out a single pin too.

You can't beat it for the money. Anytime cheap shotguns are brought up, it's my go-to recommendation.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 11:53 am
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27349 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

This is statement right here should give you your answer. A Mossberg is better than all of the options you listed. A friggen Mossberg.



Take whatever shotgun you want. Drop it in the swamp.

Step on it.

Pick it up.

Fire two shots.

The 88 will still cycle.

Makes no damned sense
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51349 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 12:39 pm to
Whats wrong w Mossberg?
Posted by prestigeworldwide
Member since May 2018
295 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 2:37 pm to
Just bought a Panzer BP-12 but have not had a chance to shoot it yet. My other is a Mossberg 590A1 Adjustable. Unfortunately I lost both of them when they fell off the jet ski.
Posted by VaBamaMan
North AL
Member since Apr 2013
7649 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 6:52 pm to
What about the cheaper Stevens/Savage 12 gauges? I know Savage is supposed to be decent.

I noticed Rock Island had some cheap ones too, and I was under the impression they made some decent stuff as well.

edit: I saw all the 88 suggestions, and I am taking them seriously.
This post was edited on 8/26/21 at 6:54 pm
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
14037 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 6:59 pm to
Winchester makes a tactical version for about 300. It's extremely nice and goes bang.
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 7:03 pm to
James from TFBTV did some videos recently on what you're looking for. Check it out.
Posted by biglego
Ask your mom where I been
Member since Nov 2007
76182 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 8:38 pm to
I’m glad to see this thread. PSA has (had?) a tacticool 12ga shotgun for $199 the other day. I don’t even like shotguns and I was tempted at that price.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19179 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

I noticed Rock Island had some cheap ones too, and I was under the impression they made some decent stuff as well.


Matt from the Demolition Ranch YouTube channel posted a video a few weeks ago where the title was something like "I Found a cheap Mag-fed 12 ga Pump Shotgun That Doesn't Suck...Buy This". The video is him shooting different calibers at casts for broken bones, but when he gets to the 12 Gauge he spends a little extra time on the Rock Island shotgun.

He even mentions that all these mag fed shotties just have all basically been hot garbage and this one is pretty solid.

Here's the link and just fast forward to 6:15 for the RIA shotgun.

Demo Ranch YouTube
Posted by ClarkGriswold
Member since Oct 2005
587 posts
Posted on 8/26/21 at 10:16 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 5:24 pm
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