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Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:36 pm to
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:36 pm to
Going with the vortex crossfire ii at $150 price from Academy.

We shoot 180-200gr. Hope it holds up.

I’d be all about the iron sights but the guy using swears he’s gonna make shots over 100
Posted by ccard257
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Oct 2012
1311 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 5:37 pm to
Yeah, europtic lists it as 2.5-3.7 which seems…not ideal. Does it seem that short/variable to you?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2688 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:05 pm to
quote:

vortex crossfire ii

This is a shite Chinese scope, will not hold up to the recoil. Cry once, cry twice, your choice. I say that respectfully bc I've been in your shoes.
This post was edited on 11/14/23 at 7:30 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:46 pm to
Yea, SWFA 3-15x42 has something like 3.5" on the low end and it's definitely not known for super long eye relief. It's got to be an error. Trijicon makes top notch shite, I don't believe the 2.5" part at all.
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 6:51 pm to
quote:

This is a shite Chinese scope, will not hold up to the recoil. Cry once, cry twice, your choice. I say that bc I've been in your shoes.


What rings did you have on it?
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
21814 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

I did a little googling, and several people on Rockside say they have one and think the correct number should be 3.5” on the low end.


I have the 3-12 and I've never noticed an issue with eye relief and I'd be surprised if Trijicon botched something that basic on the 3-9.. $300 is a screaming good deal on that scope. Glass is comparable (to my old eyes) to my Razor HD glass.
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6814 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:35 pm to
quote:

I've got to figure something out...

I see three options:
1. Lap the scope rings. This might not can be done depending on your scope rings. If you have what I think you have, you'll have to go to #2.
2. Change scope rings. Admittedly a lot of respected shooters here like the one piece scope/scope base. I'm not a fan of them. I tried them once, and it didn't match up well w/ the turrets on my scope, preventing me from moving th scope in the rings frontward or backward. For a number of years, only I've used a one piece Weaver slot base w/ Burris Weaver type Signature Z-rings (the ones w/ the plastic inserts). Since I've been using these rings, I no longer lap the scope rings. On my XP 100 handguns chambered in <30 caliber, I use 2 rings (even in the 284 Win); if chambered in 30 caliber or higher, I use 3 rings. Which brings me to option #3.
3. Add a third ring.

Let us know what works for you.
Posted by bigbuckdj
Member since Sep 2011
1835 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:43 pm to
I checked the manual it also says 2.5-3.7. I don’t think it has short eye relief and I think the eye box is very forgiving. I feel like they must measure their differently or something. I haven’t seen eye relief problems with any trijicons I’ve looked through.
Posted by TygerT
Member since Nov 2010
406 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:45 pm to
I have that same scope on my .35, no problems at all.
Posted by TygerT
Member since Nov 2010
406 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:48 pm to
That’s what came on mine and it wouldn’t hold zero. Took it off and bought the Huron. I wouldn’t put a cross fire on it. Just my opinion.
Posted by TygerT
Member since Nov 2010
406 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:48 pm to
Same here
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6814 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 7:57 pm to
A number of scopes should meet your needs. I'd suggest looking at Redifeld, Vortex (I've been happy w/ my 3 although all are on light recoiling guns), Leopold and Burris, to name a few. These two scopes would fit your needs and fit in your price range.
Burris Fullfield IV 2.5-10x and Burris Fullfield E1 3-9X. I'm not sure if either reticle would work for you. Depending on the distances you shoot, a conventional crosshair might do. You could also consider getting a fixed 4X and save some money. You can also look for a good scope on hunting forums classified ads. I've bought 3 or 4 scopes like this and been pleased w/ all. I've also been pleased w/ customer service from Leupold, Burris and Vortex.

Using good rings is important to stabilize your scope and avoid reliability issues. I prefer one piece Weaver slotted bases and Burris Signature Z-rings (the ones w/ the plastic inserts).
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2688 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 8:07 pm to
quote:

What rings did you have on it?

DNZ one-piece, switched scopes, problem solved.
Posted by SwampBooty
Sulphur, LA
Member since Sep 2015
739 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:03 pm to
Damnit. Can’t think of a reason I shouldn’t buy this for a future gun
Posted by RDOtiger
Zachary
Member since Oct 2013
1146 posts
Posted on 11/13/23 at 9:59 pm to
I have a Burris C4 (discontinued model) which is a 3x9 with a 30mm main tube, with Warne rings on a .444. The rings are lapped and all threads are locked with sealant and torqued to spec. I have had no issues with scope accuracy…
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
2688 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 7:34 am to
Question for OP: is it a 1st gen Scout with a Bergara stamped barrel? Even if not, its still a great rifle at 200yds. No reason to hold it back. Find some ammo it likes, invest in a good scope setup, and enjoy it.
Posted by jimbeaux82
Natchitoches, La
Member since Oct 2008
1337 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:00 am to
Burris Fulfield II 3x9

I have one one my 35 Whelen for about 10 years now never a problem.

Sub $200
Posted by The Levee
Bat Country
Member since Feb 2006
10723 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:09 am to
quote:

Find some ammo it likes, invest in a good scope setup, and enjoy it.



I havent hunted with it in a couple years. but when I originally zeroed...I found out that it likes the Federal Fusion 200gr (maybe it was 180 gr) regardless....I have some at the camp. Federal makes great rounds.
Posted by jimbeaux82
Natchitoches, La
Member since Oct 2008
1337 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 8:20 am to
I have been using 200 gr Federal Fusion as well with great success
Posted by Purple Spoon
Hoth
Member since Feb 2005
17864 posts
Posted on 11/14/23 at 9:51 am to
quote:

This is a shite Chinese scope, will not hold up to the recoil. Cry once, cry twice, your choice. I say that respectfully bc I've been in your shoes.



I have a crossfire on a CVA 45.70 5 years running. No issues.
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