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re: ruh roh shaggy.... this might not be good LDWF...

Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:22 pm to
Posted by gaetti15
AK
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:22 pm to
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but if you can read that article I posted the link to and think he has recreational interest even remotely at heart


I guess I'm alittle confused as to that article because it states that:

quote:

n June, Melancon and Banks attended a meeting of the Gulf of Mexico Fishery Management Council in Texas, and proposed a motion to get council staff started on an amendment that would eventually become a framework for recreational red snapper management.

The motion passed 9-6, but was opposed by recreational interests as well as directors of three of the remaining four Gulf states. The other director abstained.

Banks said the motion was a good-faith effort on the part of the department to improve strict limitations on recreational fishing for red snapper. Every year, private-boat anglers are limited to federal snapper seasons lasting less than two weeks, even though stocks are at record highs.

"The other state directors told me I was being naive," Banks said. "Unfortunately, and it was somewhat of a surprise to me, the recreational community did not support it."




ETA: I can't find the meetings to that amendment, but I would like to see what it stated.
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 5:25 pm to
At least a cost assessment was done unlike the previous admin who said they did but no one seems to be able to find that data. The one person that could produce it suddenly resigns hmmm.


If you truly believe this bill will be 100% funded by the Feds I can't help you

It's almost like you "have to open it up to find what's in it".

It shouldn't be so vague. Lots of assumptions.

Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18245 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:08 pm to
I haven't read that amendment but any move that preserves the decision making power of the Gulf Council is a move that opposes recreational interests, and that's why recreational opposed it. The Coucil has proven time and time again to be a front for commercial control. We're past the point of "good faith" compromises.
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:10 pm to
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you truly believe this bill will be 100% funded by the Feds I can't help you




Where did I say I think it would, should, or might be funded 100% by the Feds? Both DT and myself have said numerous times that is a ridiculous notion that anyone on either side realistically thought was the Feds paying 100% woas a possibility (except CM who tried to act like he was blindsided when the amendment was added).

I did throw out some general ideas that I thought could help reduce the burden put on the state. Granted, my general rambling on an LSU football message board does not mean shite and is worth what you are paying to read it. The people in charge who claim to support regional management are the ones who have to work together to develop solutions to these issues that were bound to arise and it is obvious CM would rather find problems instead of solutions.


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At least a cost assessment was done unlike the previous admin


Releasing a bullshite cost assessment with inflated and incorrect data as the only justification to flip his previous position is much worse then not running one at all which I seriously doubt was the case.

PS Does any one have a link to the numbers/process for this new cost assesment? I must have missed it.

So, no, you can not provide a single action CM has done in favor of RM. k thanks

Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:13 pm to
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It shouldn't be so vague. Lots of assumptions.



correct. but if it reduces federal oversight and provides for LOCAL input on decisions i have a hard time not supporting it. imo, placing greater emphasis on LOCAL input should take care of the necessary funding bc this is invariably a topic thats is going to come up.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:52 pm to
Lots of "ifs" and "shoulds" in that sentence.

In other words assumptions
This post was edited on 8/11/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 6:54 pm to
The numbers were presented during the July LWFC meeting. Can get the minutes and audio on LDWF website
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:07 pm to


Just curious, I noticed you mentioned that you attend a lot of those meetings. Was this for your job at LASPM? Did you write for them?
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Member since Aug 2016
5645 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:17 pm to
I watch online Very few reasons for me to go to Baton Rouge anymore


No I don't write for sportsman??
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 7:22 pm to
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I can't find the meetings to that amendment, but I would like to see what it stated.


I am not positive but I am pretty sure this was the one being pushed by the GOM reef fish shareholders association (Buddy Guindons/EDF group) and the CFA. It said regional management would only apply to Rec's and may have even pushed for an IFQ or Tagging program for Rec's. This is just from memory so could be wrong but if this was the one CM was pushing in Austin it is just more proof he is in the comms pocket.
Posted by Tuco Pacifico
Member since May 2013
401 posts
Posted on 8/11/16 at 11:38 pm to
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if you can read that article I posted


Lol. You might as well link some shite piece that turd Chris Macaluso puts out for the do nothing organization he works for. It's similar to that economic report sponsored by the American sportfishing association you like to lean on. These people/orgs make their living pandering to one group of users. Are you that obtuse? Or do you think us sheep will blindly follow?
Melancon supported state management until funding was removed. It hasn't been said that the Feds won't pay for it, but what if they don't? I'm sure your conservative upbringing and parochial school education tells you not to promise to pay for something until you know you have allocated funds to do so. So why then, would you want create more bureaucracy while being mandated to fund something you may not have money for? Run that scenario past anyone in your family without context, I'll bet they tell you that sounds like a goddamned democrat.

Just say it out loud in tiger droppings public anonymity, "I the wannabe Cajun wino, want permanent cessation of commercial fishing for the red snapper." I think it'd be therapeutic. You could quit the righteous facade, and it feels good to tell the truth.

As for Pinocchio, please tell Geppetto that childish puppet's nose is still growing. In yesterday's interview with Bill Profita, Daddy's Money Graves demonstrated he doesn't know the difference between red snapper and redfish. Graves emphatically confirmed Bill's statement that the overpopulated red snapper are eating all the baby blue crabs. Maybe, someone without a college degree shouldn't run around saying "bad science" anytime someone says red snapper.

It's comical that you, whatanelitistasshole, and Mr. Catholic High congressman think you know more about the status of the stock than teams of people from across the world that have dedicated their life to science.

BREAKING GOOD SCIENCE NEWS!!!!
Garrett and Bill confirm overpopulation of red snapper responsible for recent blue crab decline at 3:30 in link below.
Pull the strings back Geppetto (CCA)
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17666 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:00 am to
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It's comical that you, whatanelitista-hole, and Mr. Catholic High congressman think you know more about the status of the stock than teams of people from across the world that have dedicated their life to science.


C'mon man don't use Catholic High like it's a bad thing. About 1/6 of the LSU College of Coastal Environmental Science graduating class last semester went to Catholic.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
1454 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:38 am to
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Yeah, I find it kind of absurd that they are witch-hunting in WLF instead of CPRA. A CPRA investigation would probably unravel the entire sweater if they started pulling threads.


Based on what? They may pursue some dumbass, politically motivated projects, but their financials and planning regimes are laid bare for all to see.
This post was edited on 8/12/16 at 12:39 am
Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 6:10 am to
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Tuco Pacifico


Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18245 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 7:55 am to
You seem mad as frick.

As someone who does science for a living, maybe if you weren't awful at it, people wouldn't be looking to throw your work away.
Posted by Tuco Pacifico
Member since May 2013
401 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 8:50 am to
Not intended as a slight toward CHS. Just think it's funny that, in 2016 our 1st term district 6 congressman has to check the "Some College" box.
Posted by Jester
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
34717 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 9:55 am to
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Based on what? They may pursue some dumbass, politically motivated projects, but their financials and planning regimes are laid bare for all to see.



Posted by Whatafrekinchessiebr
somewhere down river
Member since Nov 2013
1712 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:32 am to
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Just think it's funny that, in 2016 our 1st term district 6 congressman has to check the "Some College" box.


I find it hilarious that every single one of your posts is dumber then the last. You really do take being a douche bag to another level. You call me an elitist a-hole then turn around and mock some body because of their education level.

I would venture to guess that Graves has accomplished much more personally and professionally then you. Please prove me wrong and englithten the board on your education level and provide a couple of examples of what you have done to serve the public at large.

Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 11:52 am to
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Just think it's funny that, in 2016 our 1st term district 6 congressman has to check the "Some College" box.


As opposed to what exactly? Would you feel better if he had a general studies degree? How about history? That's stupid thing to say about someone, especially someone in politics where absolutely nothing outside of experience can prepare anyone for the frickery they are about to experience.

Let's not pretend like a college degree is anything other than proof of ones ability to memorize and regurgitate information to appease a college professor who may or may not be a lunatic.
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
18245 posts
Posted on 8/12/16 at 12:00 pm to
Guy's got some insecurity issues.
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