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re: Rifle scope recommendations

Posted on 10/12/26 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 4:13 pm to
Tikkas being slow is a thing according to the internet. The only rifles ive personally checked (just 2 of them) seem to be close to advertised velocity from 600 yard shooting. Not ideal but far enough that there would be apparent elevation errors if they were significantly slower. If you arent using a garmin or lab radar I wouldnt pay attention to the chronograph numbers anyway.

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shoots 1/4” groups


And youre asking these questions why???

You didnt give any details but 2700fps at the muzzle of what I assume is a 6.5 or 7mm PRC is going to still be at 2000fps way way out there.
Posted by ConnectTheDots
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 4:21 pm to
Yeah It’s plenty good for the hunting I do but if I ever went out west it wouldn’t be as flat as I’d like with those speeds. 6.5prc with 24” barrel
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 4:47 pm
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 4:53 pm to
Id hunt with that load if it was 2400 fps
Posted by bbvdd
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:00 pm to
What grain bullet?

156 or 140? Even at that 24” 156 should be 2800 fps

I have gotten 2900 140 gr bergers in my 6.5 cm.
Posted by ConnectTheDots
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:35 pm to
145gr Sierra Gamekings loaded by Barnes. I’ve seen videos where people also say Barnes loads them on the light end.
This post was edited on 10/12/26 at 5:36 pm
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 5:52 pm to
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Are you getting good groups and velos with your Tikka? Mine shoots 1/4” groups with the Barnes Harvest but they only go about 2700fps which is slow for a prc.


I have my stainless 270 smoking with handloads. You’re never gonna get box velocity out of them because 1) the box is milking it with a 26” barrel and 2) the way they hammer forge, there’s just not as much resistance and junk that would previously lead people to swear by certain barrel break in methods, it’s just clean. I’m a wuss about pressure signs and I was able to get way above book max with multiple powders before seeing ejector marks.
Posted by Wade Phillips
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Posted on 10/12/26 at 7:45 pm to
I was getting good groups at 100 fresh out of the box. The bolt action was very tight and sometimes almost impossible to cycle. A couple of the shells had the firing cap pull completely out and fall into mag. Then the ejector hung up completely. I found some brass shavings when manually clearing it. Hope these are new gun issues and not indicative of a bigger problem. Was shooting 140 grain Winchester with no issues, and the 143 hornady ELDX which wouldn’t eject at all. No clue on velocity yet. Need to take it back and get on the longer ranges.
Posted by saintsfan1977
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:05 am to
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. If you arent using a garmin or lab radar I wouldnt pay attention to the chronograph numbers anyway.


A magnetospeed will be right there with them. I have one and also got a Garmin.
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You didnt give any details but 2700fps at the muzzle
no deer will know the difference between 2900 and 2700fps.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:28 am to
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The bolt action was very tight and sometimes almost impossible to cycle. A couple of the shells had the firing cap pull completely out and fall into mag


That’s significant pressure signs. Are these factory loads or your reloads?

When you’re blowing primers, you’re reaching danger levels.

I’d take it to a gunsmith and have him check it with go/ no go gages.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 10:30 am
Posted by TheDrunkenTigah
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:04 am to
Do not shoot that gun again until a smith looks at it, you have three big pressure signs all at once.
Posted by nolaks
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 11:20 am to
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Vortex Viper 3-15x44 bdc reticle $449


I have this scope, i love it
Posted by Wade Phillips
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 7:05 pm to
Thank you. These were Winchester match points. 140 GR I believe. I researched more and do agree there is a big issue to look into. Will take to gunsmith to confirm. Dickhead at the range said it was just symptoms of a brand new rifle. And not having had a new rifle or experienced that issue before, I didn’t realize the seriousness.
Posted by X123F45
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:30 pm to
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Shooting under 300 yards


Shooting...what?

If deer, there's almost no scope you could choose from $200 on up that wouldn't let you shoot that far consistently and comfortably.

vortex diamondback $250

I spent the afternoon sighting one of these in on a .224 valk AR.

As always, I'm the limitation not the gun or the optic.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 8:34 pm to
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Dickhead at the range said it was just symptoms of a brand new rifle


No, definitely not. You have serious overpressure issues. Headspace is the most likely culprit. Send the rifle back to the manufacturer.

Does anybody know if 6.5 prc has the same throat/COAL relationship thing going on that the 7 does where you can theoretically end up jammed in the lands with spec ammunition?
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 8:41 pm
Posted by ruger35
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:05 pm to
By spec ammunition do you mean factory? Only high pressure I’ve seen in my 7PRC has been with Hornady factory. And that’s loading 190’s between 2950-3010fps.

I think any PRC has the potential for clickers, it’s why Cortina’s dies are recommended.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 10/13/26 at 10:59 pm to
I’m guessing the type of ogive of the bullet could possibly cause the bullet to be pushed into the case when it’s more of a tangent ogive vs secant ogive.

The point on a tangent is a little shorter which could cause the bullet to hit the lands and forced back.

A secant is more streamlined and has a longer skinnier point.

ETA: after reading his thread again, the eldx is what was giving him issues. It’s definitely more secant shaped. So, really not sure either head space issues or bad batch of ammo.
This post was edited on 10/13/26 at 11:02 pm
Posted by Flats
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 7:36 am to
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The bolt action was very tight and sometimes almost impossible to cycle.


On a new Tikka? That alone would make me stop shooting it until I figured out the reason. The slick bolt action is the thing everybody comments on the first time they pick up a Tikka or Sako.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 8:11 am to
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By spec ammunition do you mean factory?


Not really, just ammo that is within SAMMI dimensional tolerances. There is a tolerance stacking thing with 7prc that if i recall correctly can result in spec ammunition being jammed in the lands of an in spec chamber.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:47 am to
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The slick bolt action is the thing everybody comments on the first time they pick up a Tikka or Sako.
I'm pretty sure he meant after the shot. I have 2 tikka rifles. I have a 223 I'm shooting 5.56 out of with no issues. I bought it from someone with 400rds of ammo.
This post was edited on 10/14/26 at 9:48 am
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/14/26 at 9:59 am to
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I'm pretty sure he meant after the shot.


I know, but if it's a typical Tikka slick action when you load and then you can barely extract after the shot you've got problems. Bad brass, improper load, something. He wasn't clear if it did that with more than one ammo brand, but that would tell you a lot more.
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