re: Question for those of you with trained labs

[quote]Understand.. guess i just need a tool to get the job done then lol. Between work and a 3 year old. I cant be out longer than 45min to an hr daily with him.
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I have been around and trained labs for the blind for years and I have never seen one that needed 2-3 hours of work a day and 3 or more hours on the weekend. In my experience 30 minutes of training seriously a day is sufficient to get a lab to behave properly in a blind Orin the field. As far as bonding goes unless there is something askew it will happen if you just play with the dog and train it in short periods. I know nothing about herding breeds but if 3 hours a day of training is required I won’t ever know anything about them. Labs do not need that kind of training to do what they do in the blind or the field. My current lab is a pointing lab and she does well in the blind and the field and I never spent more than 30 minutes a day training.....we may play for another 30 but actual work time is short and sweet. Consistency when you aren’t training formally is essential.....when you say place in the living room mean it....and end every session on a positive and if you’re in a foul mood or pushed for time don’t train....they will regress quickly if they sense something is not right

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In my experience 30 minutes of training seriously a day is sufficient to get a lab to behave properly in a blind Orin the field. As far as bonding goes unless there is something askew it will happen if you just play with the dog and train it in short periods

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Exaclty what trainer i bought the dog from told me. He said 10-30mix max daily of training. No more

There are Opinions and Facts in life, your post was 100% OPINION. Treating your hunting/hunt test/Field Trial dog good will have zero bering on his ability to retrieve downed game. I bet you also believe dogs learn by watching other dogs complete tasks?
I have trained some Fire Breathers that were perfect inside and still would run through a burning building for a duck.

With several of you downvoting my post, why don't you do a little research and see how many articles you can find that says a hunting dog is better if it is left outside all the time.

Please humor me.

Just because that's the way your daddy did it doesn't mean that it's the correct way.

When my dad played football in HS and college, the coaches would let them drink water because it "made them weak". I think we would all say that is stupid today.

I've seen more than one lab get ruined when the owner got them back from the trainer, put them inside and made them a fulltime house dog. I watched a good friend of mine piss away about 12K doing it. The dog was fantastic coming out of the trainer. 2 years of women and kids doting on it, laying around in the A/C getting fat, and it had completely lost his drive. It seen it happen to humans too

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I've seen more than one lab get ruined when the owner got them back from the trainer, put them inside and made them a fulltime house dog. I watched a good friend of mine piss away about 12K doing it. The dog was fantastic coming out of the trainer. 2 years of women and kids doting on it, laying around in the A/C getting fat, and it had completely lost his drive.

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That's on the owner and not the dog.

100%

I'd guarantee you the owner failed to maintain and work the dog.

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Then it fricking sucks as a hunting dog.

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BS, my dogs dad is a MH3, one of the absolute best dogs I have ever hunted over, and this fricker sleeps in the bed right between them. My dog is part of the family, he does everything with us, he does not sleep in the bed with us and sleeps in his Kennel but you can absolutely have a pet and a hunting partner.

What do you consider “work”? Coyotes (CBR’s) are the only retrievers that don’t do well with multiple handlers but they can be wonderful family dogs.

I would not give tennis balls. I’ve never had a dog swallow one but that’s the one thing my trainer said to never use.

Rawhide chews or the rope style work well.

I really don’t know. I believe people are just ordering dogs way before they are even bred. I looked at Southern Oak kennels and the wait time was like 3-4 months. I decided to go with Mossy Oak kennels and the the female hasn’t even been bed bread yet. I had to skip two litters to be able to get the first black male pick. Kennels are probably being more strategic with when and who they breed now.

Edit: Southern Oak might have been 6 month wait.