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re: Poaching when is it Ok? Gamewarden/No License.

Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:47 pm to
Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:47 pm to
I have a hunting license. I also am pretty much never off of work during daylight hours.

I usually just let the dog out.

Problem is he can take down a deer if he gets too riled up.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 4:14 pm
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6846 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:50 pm to
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There's a difference between counting ducks or fish wrong and being 1 or 2 over the limit versus going out and killing a deer out of season or a doe during bucks only. All are wrong, but one is an obvious show of intent to poach.


That's what I was saying. Lighten up Francis.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260293 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:56 pm to
Poachers affect limits that people operating legally can take so I dislike them.
Posted by Double The Trouble
Right pass tee bernie's crab traps
Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:57 pm to
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 3:58 pm to
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That's what I was saying. Lighten up Francis.


So I guess I just missed the sarcasm in "you must be fun at parties?"

Wouldn't be the first time...lmao!
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24977 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:23 pm to
Let me ask this question.

Since limits/seasons are not set by elected officials what’s to say what is/isn’t poaching when it come to limits/seasons.

Treaspassing is one thing but what about limits/seasons?

Should limits/seasons be set by elected officials?
Perfect example is the red snapper. Commercial fishermen have a much longer season over rec fishermen.
Is that fair/justified? Plus, the northern gulf is about over run and the government could care less because in the keys they are few and far between.

Understand I do not and have never taken game by illegal methods or on property that I wasn’t allowed to hunt/fish. Never had a infraction at all.

Just asking if unelected officials should be making these decisions.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:30 pm to
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Since limits/seasons are not set by elected officials what’s to say what is/isn’t poaching when it come to limits/seasons.

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Just asking if unelected officials should be making these decisions.

Not sure what any of that has to do with what is and isn't poaching. Poaching isn't defined by whether the limits/seasons are set by unelected or elected officials.

It doesn't matter who sets the limits/seasons, poaching is poaching. There would, in virtually any scenario, be some kind of poaching, because someone is always going to feel that the limits/seasons are BS or inadequate, or that they are above the law.

The only way you don't have poaching is if you make hunting legal year round with no limits.

Maybe I don't understand what you are asking, but I just don't see the relevance of unelected vs elected when it comes to poaching.
Posted by LSUengr
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
2332 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 5:58 pm to
He is saying if the limits/seasons aren't based on science than is it really poaching. That is really another discussion altogether. Poaching is taking game against the law. Doesn't matter if the law is fair or not.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24977 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:04 pm to
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Maybe I don't understand what you are asking, but I just don't see the relevance of unelected vs elected when it comes to poaching.


Since these government bureaucrats and not people elected by the people, what’s to keep one of them deciding that they don’t like hunting or hunters and banning all forms of hunting?

You or I really would have very little say so as long as that administration was in power.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:19 pm to
1) The wildlife and Fisheries Commission could not ban hunting. They could close seasons, but not ban it. Plus, it would take some serious payoffs and a general lack of concern for public input to do so. These Commissioners have proven they will cave to public pressure, even if it public opinion is against what the biologists recommend. By the way, they do base those decisions on recommendations from biologists.

2) It would be suicide to do such. You would kill LDWF if you banned hunting due to lose of revenue from license sales, and the ability to secure federal funding from Pittman-Robertson.

3) No one person could ban it. That is the reason for a Commission.

4) This still has nothing to do with what is and isn't poaching.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 6:22 pm
Posted by offshoretrash
Farmerville, La
Member since Aug 2008
10174 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:25 pm to
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Poaching when is it Ok?


Never, unless you are so poor you are living off the game, then survive by how ever means necessary. I would think the numbers would be very low of someone actually having to do that.

What I don't agree with is the lite sentences for some and they throw the book at others. Wildlife convictions seem to come with stiffer fines and penalties than the damn meth heads stealing every ones shite, unless you have money.
Posted by FelicianaTigerfan
Comanche County
Member since Aug 2009
26059 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:34 pm to
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When is poaching ever appropriate? In other words, what possible reason could there be to poach?


Say I have some farm land across the line in Miss. Pigs are destroying my hay fields and bringing desease around cattle troughs. I’m not paying 300 dollars for a license but I’d damn sure shoot one if it ran out in front of me
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12715 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 6:49 pm to
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Say I have some farm land across the line in Miss. Pigs are destroying my hay fields and bringing desease around cattle troughs. I’m not paying 300 dollars for a license but I’d damn sure shoot one if it ran out in front of me


I think it's ridiculous that you even need a license to hunt feral hogs. They are an invasive species, but we treat them like a game animal in that you need a license to hunt them legally. WMAs are one thing, because you have to have a license to enter one.

But on private land? Shouldn't need one for hogs. It's ironic that you need a hunting license to hunt something that has no hunting season.

As it is, killing a hog without a license is technically poaching (by the law). But given that there is no season, no limit, and no prohibited weapons, it shouldn't be poaching. The only limitation is on nighttime hunting during deer season.
This post was edited on 1/15/18 at 6:51 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81620 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:04 pm to
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The only way you don't have poaching is if you make hunting legal year round with no limits
So, basically, Avoyelles Parish.
Posted by Drunken Crawfish
Member since Apr 2017
3822 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:07 pm to
I thought Hillary Clinton taught us that the “intent” of the committed crime was supposed to be important.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
9338 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 7:50 pm to
frick no, I don't want any fricking scum sucking politicians getting involved in my hunting or fishing, frick that!!!
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117689 posts
Posted on 1/15/18 at 11:44 pm to
This thread was frickin retarded.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12096 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 12:18 am to
Always Christmas Eve
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19266 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:14 am to
Buddy and I were sighting in our rifles in a cutover years ago the afternoon prior to opening day (not where we planned to hunt).

After I shot the target and started walking to see where I hit a 140 class 10 point jumps up and takes off running at 50 yards, if I'd had another shell I would have shot his arse.

Glad I didn't I think Still remember it like yesterday
Posted by celltech1981
Member since Jul 2014
8139 posts
Posted on 1/16/18 at 6:35 am to
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I’m not paying 300 dollars for a license but I’d damn sure shoot one if it ran out in front of me


I would see if you could get a permit of some sort to cover your arse. I would say I'm OK with this kind of "poaching". It's an invasive species that is destroying your property.
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