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Patagonia products
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:20 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:20 pm
This may be more suited to the politics board but a lot of outdoorsmen wear Patagonia products so I will post it here.
Patagonia has a division that puts business logos on their products like vests and jackets but here recently they have been more selective in what businesses they are willing to work with. Which is their right but just be aware of their stance and make your own decisions.
Here is their response to a Financial Institiute wanting to buy some Patagonia branded products.
They are unwilling to brand with coal, oil, drilling, mining, or religious groups or churches.
Something to think about when buying your next fleece pullover.
Patagonia has a division that puts business logos on their products like vests and jackets but here recently they have been more selective in what businesses they are willing to work with. Which is their right but just be aware of their stance and make your own decisions.
Here is their response to a Financial Institiute wanting to buy some Patagonia branded products.
They are unwilling to brand with coal, oil, drilling, mining, or religious groups or churches.
Something to think about when buying your next fleece pullover.
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:31 pm to highcotton2
Good to know,,, if someone sees me with my wranglers or carhart branded clothes and ask if I’m a baw or redneck. I’ll just reply ” nope I’m a social justice warrior “.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:56 pm to highcotton2
Environmental activism isn't anything new for Yvon Chouinard and Patagonia. In this day in age of social media and 24/7 news, one can't blame them for cutting ties with some of the organizations/institutions they may have normally co-branded with in the past since it may have undesirable optics for them in light of their mission statement. If it's not a big hit on their revenue, then why not?
I just got a new down sweater and this doesn't change my mind about them, I think they make great products.
ETA: I just don't get the boycotting scene. If one boycotts one business for a reason, then they would probably need to boycott most business, institutions, and even banks that either themselves or organizations they tree up to might support a certain political ideology.
I just got a new down sweater and this doesn't change my mind about them, I think they make great products.
ETA: I just don't get the boycotting scene. If one boycotts one business for a reason, then they would probably need to boycott most business, institutions, and even banks that either themselves or organizations they tree up to might support a certain political ideology.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:59 pm
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:11 am to highcotton2
How do they ship their products?
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:20 am to meeple
Spot. On.
As to how do they ship their products comment above, take a look at google search for "Patagonia carbon neutral 2025"... No one is perfect, but they are already taking huge steps relative to the industry to minimize their impact as an organization.
As to how do they ship their products comment above, take a look at google search for "Patagonia carbon neutral 2025"... No one is perfect, but they are already taking huge steps relative to the industry to minimize their impact as an organization.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 12:54 am to highcotton2
They denied us at my bank in Houston 2 years ago because we work in an energy group. Pretty ridiculous.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 12:55 am
Posted on 4/4/19 at 1:03 am to highcotton2
It's no secret that they're environmentalists. Their shite is still good
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:34 am to highcotton2
There is few things more ignorant than acting like climate change is indisputably man made.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 5:47 am to GREENHEAD22
Despite living in one of the most mountainous states in th email union, I haven't bought anything from Patigucchi in years.....
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:12 am to highcotton2
Good to know, I'll be purchasing some Patagonia products soon. It always impresses me when a company sticks to their values whether I agree with them or not.
Yup, not many folks are ideologically consistent. They are just virtue signaling.
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ETA: I just don't get the boycotting scene. If one boycotts one business for a reason, then they would probably need to boycott most business, institutions, and even banks that either themselves or organizations they tree up to might support a certain political ideology.
Yup, not many folks are ideologically consistent. They are just virtue signaling.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 6:16 am
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:18 am to meeple
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just don't get the boycotting scene
The easiest way to explain it is that I don’t want to give my money to companies that take stances that I disagree with. So I don’t when possible.
Examples: I don’t shop at Dick’s and won’t buy any more Yeti products. Will I put them out of business? Sadly, no. But at least I’m not supporting them in any way.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:24 am to highcotton2
I've never worn Patagonia because it's overrated and overpriced. The Political aspect just makes me more entrenched.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:30 am to meeple
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ETA: I just don't get the boycotting scene.
Don't boycott, just exercise your economic freedom.
There's an economic principle of the "dollar vote" which means we vote or support certain economic entities for various reasons.
I don't protest or participate in a "boycott," however I will support companies I identify with. It's a personal choice.
Buying from people like Patagonia just reinforces their belief that they are doing the right thing. They are moral crusaders, I can find companies who offer me more value and I don't have to give Patagonia free advertising on my clothing.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 6:31 am
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:32 am to highcotton2
socialist sign of the times, interesting flip of the script, companies use to take every opportunity to place their logo on their products to maximize advertising for free, now they risk losing that advantage in order to dictate social policy upon others AND lose that revenue, keep the American democratic dream alive and let these socialists know your thoughts with your wallet...
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:44 am to Melvin Spellvin
Good for them they are standing by their core values. Same thing Chik-Fil-a does by closing on Sunday. I admire both and they both produce quality product hence I consume them
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 6:46 am
Posted on 4/4/19 at 6:55 am to Melvin Spellvin
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socialist sign of the times
Uhhh what? When you decide to stand behind your core values and not support a company it is free market but when a corporation does the same it is socialism?
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:11 am to highcotton2
There are plenty of "middle man" logo/embroidery sites that carry Patagonia. I'm sure they dont care what logo you ask to put on the sweater, they just want your money.
If you want Patagonia gear with you oil and gas logo on it, buy the gear, and take it to your local embroidery shop. Profit.
FWIW - I work for an industrial construction company. A company that builds plants that emit greenhouse gases and all the scary things that tree-huggers hate. My company christmas present was a Patagonia pull over with our logo on it
If you want Patagonia gear with you oil and gas logo on it, buy the gear, and take it to your local embroidery shop. Profit.
FWIW - I work for an industrial construction company. A company that builds plants that emit greenhouse gases and all the scary things that tree-huggers hate. My company christmas present was a Patagonia pull over with our logo on it
Posted on 4/4/19 at 7:58 am to fibonaccisquared
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Patagonia carbon neutral 2025
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hipping Products Our products are shipped all over the place. To reduce our shipping footprint, we analyze our shipping routes to minimize distances traveled, switch to less energy intensive modes of transportation (i.e., ocean freight over air) and increase "drop shipping" where products ship directly from factory to regional distribution centers. In summer 2018, we added a new distribution center on the East Coast of the U.S., which allows us to ship to all our domestic customers with ground shipping within two days, reducing the need for more carbon-intensive air shipments.
Look I’m not trying to not call you out, and their environmental efforts are very good and all. That said, this sounds like plain good business practice, in optimizing their shipping practices. Of course it can also easily be passed off as “we’re doing this for the environment.”
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:10 am to jimbeam
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That said, this sounds like plain good business practice, in optimizing their shipping practices. Of course it can also easily be passed off as “we’re doing this for the environment.”
That's why I hardly ever get worked up over these things. With a few exceptions, most of these "mission statement" motivated decisions are often backed by a ton of market research and are done because they will help the bottom line in the long run. Be willing to bet they just got tired of nickel and dime personalized orders and aren't seeing a very good return on that area of their business.
Posted on 4/4/19 at 8:19 am to highcotton2
How do they get their products to market without oil drilling or mining of some sort, and would their refusal to do business with church groups be tantamount to not baking a cake for a gay wedding?
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