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Overview of Background check bill:
Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:47 pm
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The bill explicitly bans the federal government from creating a national firearms registry, and imposes serious criminal penalties (a felony with up to 15 years in prison) on any person who misuses or illegally retains firearms records.
TITLE ONE: GETTING ALL THE NAMES OF PROHIBITED PURCHASERS INTO THE BACKGROUND CHECK SYSTEM
Summary of Title I: This section improves background checks for firearms by strengthening the instant check system.
- Encourage states to provide all their available records to NICS by restricting federal funds to states who do not comply.
- Allow dealers to voluntarily use the NICS database to run background checks on their prospective employees.
- Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).
- Provides a legal process for a veteran to contest his/her placement in NICS when there is no basis for barring the right to own a firearm.
TITLE TWO: REQUIRING BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR FIREARM SALES
Summary of Title II: This section of the bill requires background checks for sales at gun shows and online while securing certain aspects of 2nd Amendment rights for law abiding citizens.
- Closes the gun show and other loopholes while exempting temporary transfers and transfers between family members.
- Fixes interstate travel laws for sportsmen who transport their firearms across state lines in a responsible manner. The term "transport" includes staying in temporary lodging overnight, stopping for food, buying fuel, vehicle maintenance, and medical treatment.
- Protects sellers from lawsuits if the weapon cleared through the expanded background checks and is subsequently used in a crime. This is the same treatment gun dealers receive now.
- Allows dealers to complete transactions at gun shows that take place in a state for which they are not a resident.
- Requires that if a background check at a gun show does not result in a definitive response from NICS within 48 hours, the sale may proceed. After four years, when the NICS improvements are completed, the background check would clear in 24 hours. Current law is three business days.
- Requires the FBI to give priority to finalizing background checks at gun shows over checks at store front dealerships.
- Authorizes use of a state concealed carry permit instead of a background check when purchasing a firearm from a dealer.
- Permits interstate handgun sales from dealers.
- Allows active military to buy firearms in their home states.
- Family transfers and some private sales (friends, neighbors, other individuals) are exempt from background checks
TITLE THREE: NATIONAL COMMISSION ON MASS VIOLENCE
Summary of Title III: : This section of the bill creates a commission to study the causes of mass violence in the United States, looking at all aspects of the problem, including guns, school safety, mental health, and violent media or video games.
The Commission would consist of six experts appointed by the Senate Majority Leader and six experts appointed by the Speaker of the House. They would be required to submit an interim report in three months and a completed report in six months.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:53 pm to wickowick
I still dont trust them.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 12:58 pm to wickowick
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Clarifies that submissions of mental health records into the NICS system are not prohibited by federal privacy laws (HIPAA).
Yeah, there was already a stigma for vets regarding PTS, I'm sure this will only improve that...
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- Closes the gun show and other loopholes while exempting temporary transfers and transfers between family members.
So I can't sell to my neighbor down the street or a coworker anymore?
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- Authorizes use of a state concealed carry permit instead of a background check when purchasing a firearm from a dealer.
This is actually good.
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Summary of Title III: : This section of the bill creates a commission to study the causes of mass violence in the United States, looking at all aspects of the problem, including guns, school safety, mental health, and violent media or video games.
More govt. money we don't have...
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:02 pm to brass2mouth
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So I can't sell to my neighbor down the street or a coworker anymore?
Yup.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:22 pm to wickowick
Not near as bad a I thought. I may actually be for this. Gotta mull it over.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:24 pm to Langston
Permits interstate handgun sales from dealers. This is big for me. I work in Mississippi and Live in Alabama but gun stores are better in Mississippi but can't sell me a handgun. Overall not a bad bill and we get as much as we give, the only real issue is background checks at gun shows. We we really should have had that in place to begin with. What is the NRA's position on this?
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:25 pm to Langston
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- Family transfers and some private sales (friends, neighbors, other individuals) are exempt from background checks
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:26 pm to brass2mouth
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So I can't sell to my neighbor down the street or a coworker anymore?
Sure you can. According to everything I have read it is only for commercial gun sales.
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Sens. Joe Manchin and Pat Toomey unveiled a bipartisan deal to expand background checks for commercial gun purchases — including those at gun shows and online — Wednesday morning, opening a pathway for the biggest change in U.S. gun laws in nearly two decades.
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A bipartisan group of senators has struck a deal to expand gun background checks to all commercial sales — whether at gun shows, via the Internet or in any circumstance involving paid advertising, according to Senate aides familiar with the talks.
This post was edited on 4/10/13 at 1:37 pm
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:29 pm to TutHillTiger
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We we really should have had that in place to begin with. What is the NRA's position on this?
They were for universal background checks before they were against it. The NRA has to push back on something otherwise their fundraising will diminish. You can bet your last dollar they will oppose it.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:40 pm to Vol Fan in the Bayou
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This section of the bill requires background checks for sales at gun shows and online
This already exists.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:44 pm to DrTyger
If you buy online they ship to an FFL who then conducts background check. How will this change?
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:46 pm to wickowick
Don't trust the registry part as our paper said it did creat a registry?? Where does it say it doesn't? Those gun grabbers will put an amendment on there if you dont watch them. The whole reason they want a registry is so they can charge for it first and eventually pick them up.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:47 pm to DrTyger
They are after private sales, face to face transfers.
If they get their wish and this legislation, it will be the first step in getting a comprehensive list of a "Law Abiding Gun Owners".
Once again it does nothing to stop a black market......which is where criminal get their guns now. (THE POLITICIANS KNOW THIS)
If they get their wish and this legislation, it will be the first step in getting a comprehensive list of a "Law Abiding Gun Owners".
Once again it does nothing to stop a black market......which is where criminal get their guns now. (THE POLITICIANS KNOW THIS)
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:47 pm to DrTyger
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_________________________________________This section of the bill requires background checks for sales at gun shows and online_________________________________________
This already exists.
THIS
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:48 pm to wickowick
Its just the beginning.......the government starts with small things and we give in....................................give them an inch and they take a mile.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:48 pm to DrTyger
So, since I have a CC permit I don't have to wait on a background check?
Will a CC permit be standardized by federal authorities?
Will a CC permit be standardized by federal authorities?
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:53 pm to LSUlefty
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Family transfers and some private sales (friends, neighbors, other individuals) are exempt from background checks
"other individuals" = anyone
What does this bill do exactly?
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:55 pm to CBLSU316
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Its just the beginning.......the government starts with small things and we give in....................................give them an inch and they take a mile.
Exactly, if it doesnt remove restrictions only, F it!!!
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:57 pm to wickowick
Anyone for this is simply not looking big picture. TL;DR, criminals will still break the law. More laws won't change that.
This is just as unacceptable as any other measure.
This is just as unacceptable as any other measure.
Posted on 4/10/13 at 1:58 pm to bbvdd
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Will a CC permit be standardized by federal authorities?
They need to be handled like a driver's licence in respect to state to state movement...
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