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New species of Salamander discovered in Alabama, Florida panhandle

Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:01 pm
It’s an absolute unit




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According to a comment in National Geographic by David Steen, co-author of the paper describing the salamander, the new species is one of the largest creatures to be described in the United States in over 100 years. He also added that it took about five years of searching ponds and waterways in the Florida panhandle before they could come up with enough specimens to describe the species.


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Sean Graham and David Steen, two of the best field naturalists I know, have been working on describing this animal since they were herpetology students at Auburn over a decade ago. A few of us knew the “leopard eel,” as we called it, was out there, but it took years and a ton of work to gather sufficient data to write up the scientific description, at last giving this beautiful creature a formally recognized name. Thanks to these two and their collaborators, we can now add Siren reticulata, the Reticulated Siren, to Alabama’s list of nearly 50 salamanders.” Alabama: A global hotspot The announcement of the new salamander species coincides with recent stories about the state of Alabama being a global biological hotspot. It also reminds us, there are so many plants and animals yet to be discovered and protected.




Posted by TheBoo
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:19 pm to
Woah
Posted by CoachChappy
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:26 pm to
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recent stories about the state of Alabama being a global biological hotspot.


Due to new species emerging from all the inbreeding?
Posted by Teague
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Itismemc
LA
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:04 pm to
I know what I'm making for iCAST next year.......
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Posted by oleyeller
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 2:13 pm to
seen them things for years. Makes a good live bass bait
Posted by Tiger4Liberty
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Posted on 12/10/18 at 9:53 pm to
Would you mind posting the link to this story? Thanks
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:39 am to
I used to date a chick that studied salamanders in Peru and Argentina for two years. She then went on to study frogs in the Amazon, and has now been studying frogs in the US for six or so years.

Unbeknownst to me, there is a fungus that causes an infection in both frogs and salamanders that kills them all. It's something that grows on their skin. She said, at least as frogs are concerned, all were susceptible to it, and it was slowly killing every frog species in the US off, and the fungus related to salamanders was doing the same.

Her dissertation, and work after that, was on how to easily adapt some chemical that Monsanto produces to genetically modify frogs so the infection wouldn't kill them. It prevented whatever fungus from growing on their skin. Her friend was working on the same for salamanders. She was still working out the concentrations of whatever chemical it was, mixed with what they were already spreading, and then we broke up.


That's just an FYI
Posted by MorningWood
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:52 am to
Exactly. These aren’t new. You can catch tons of these after a hard rain by putting a dip net in front of a colvert in the swamp.

Use to catch them and use them for bait on Candy lake. Caught my first 8lb bass with one of these.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:55 am to
Sounds like that made for some intense post-coital pillow talk.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21696 posts
Posted on 12/11/18 at 6:57 am to
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Exactly. These aren’t new. You can catch tons of these after a hard rain by putting a dip net in front of a colvert in the swamp.




Do you guys know how many different species of salamanders there are in the US? Almost 200. And nearly all of them go through a larval stage where they live in water and have gills. Most of them leave the water and lose the external gills in the adult stage, but not all. And many of them look very similar.

In short, just because you've seen a salamander doesn't mean this isn't a newly described species.
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 7:12 am
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 7:06 am to
It was pretty interesting. She had a big field research station set up in the woods, and didn't mind other viewpoints.

Idk why, but smart chicks like dating me. The one before that was a doctor in charge of her department at a hospital. The one before that was a physicist.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:13 am to
That's pretty cool, discovering a new species of that size in the US.

I live on the coast in the Florida Panhandle near where Michael came in. A few days after the storm I was walking the property and found what I thought was an eel that had been washed in by the storm surge. This was more than 1/2 mile from the ocean at the furthest extent of the surge. But now I'd say it was a large salamander that was killed by the salt water. I wish I'd taken the body to an expert for an ID, could have been interesting.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 8:15 am to
you are thinking of an amphiuma very common in ditches this is a type of siren
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:01 am to
They keep up the inbreeding and animal sex over there and its gonna be more than salamanders they end up finding
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:04 am to
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Due to new species emerging from all the inbreeding?


Posted by AlxTgr
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Do you guys know how many different species of salamanders there are in the US? Almost 200. And nearly all of them go through a larval stage where they live in water and have gills. Most of them leave the water and lose the external gills in the adult stage, but not all. And many of them look very similar.

In short, just because you've seen a salamander doesn't mean this isn't a newly described species.
This place makes me sad sometimes.

Wait until we do this with crawfish
Posted by Riseupfromtherubble
You'll Never Walk Alone
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Posted on 12/11/18 at 2:07 pm to
Link to story with more pics

National Geographic
This post was edited on 12/11/18 at 2:11 pm
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