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re: Need advice on buying pedal kayak for fishing.

Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:48 am to
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28256 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 7:48 am to
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He hates Hobie more than Jackson. He's a Native guy. No, you're a blind Hobie fan boy. I listed 3 brands. I have zero brand loyalty on yaks. I have no idea why you harbor ill will against a human because of a piece of plastic. I have objective reasons for any review here. You have, " muh club all uses Hobie" .


Calm the F down dude.
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15017 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:01 am to
Don’t worry about that clown.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:32 am to
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Calm the F down dude.

OK.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 8:32 am to
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Don’t worry about that clown.

Go frick yourself. You started this shite. Sad you can't see it.
Posted by YOURADHERE
Member since Dec 2006
8423 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:09 am to
Knowing your budget would help, but certainly lean 12' for better tracking if you can.

Set up a demo if you can and decide what works best for you. inventory for everyone is low so keep an eye out for something used as well. Hobies are much more readily available used than others because they sell so many of them.

My only experience is with Hobies and a whole day on a Cruise FD. I'd like to try the updated FD to see if they're truly much improved but my impression of the first edition FDs was pretty bad. Slow, inefficient, noisy. Maybe they've fixed it though.
Posted by LAwolf
Member since Oct 2020
127 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:22 am to
I have no experience except with Hobie.

Biggest consideration to me is how the kayak will be transported and what your launches look like. I carry mine on a small trailer so weight isn't an issue.

Do you want to stand and fish? If so you'll need a bulkier heavier ride.

Lots of good brands these days. But i really enjoy fishing from the yak. Good luck.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:31 am to
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Biggest consideration to me is how the kayak will be transported
This has always been a concern for me. My first was a 14, and it was more boat that I could handle in my truck without an extender. 12 seems good for me, but wish they were lighter, as I am often by myself. The shorter ones I've used were a bit of a pain on the rudder. Constant attention.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26926 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:32 am to
One thing I haven't seen mentioned is your weight. I have a Revolution 13 and I love it, but I weigh 170. I've got a nephew who's 6'5" and he can use it fine, but it rides low and no way could he stand up. I don't know if the other brands have different widths but if you're considering Hobie and you're a bigger guy definitely go with an Outback over something like a Revolution. The narrow ones are faster and track better but you give up some capacity and stability.
Posted by Cantstandya
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2005
438 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 9:42 am to
I have a used Hobie PA-12 for sale if you’re interested. It’s in good shape but doesn’t have the reverse drive. I’ve been happy with it but just bought a boat.
Posted by TheRange
Member since Aug 2017
153 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 10:45 am to
whats your email?
Posted by lsuson
Metairie
Member since Oct 2013
15017 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:05 am to
So here’s my experience with the new drive and I’m not sugar coating it. It’s much less noisy. Much smoother to peddle. I thought I’d go much faster than the old drive, but I’ve only seen a little difference. I beat the damn thing up and have had zero issues. The only negative is in grass the prop constantly gets fouled up. I never have to worry about bent fins, popped cable, etc. it’s a beast around stumps. All brands have pros and cons. I like the concept a lot in the 360. Just know they’ve had issues but I’m all for innovation in the kayak industry.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:17 am to
Hater...
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26926 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:36 am to
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I thought I’d go much faster than the old drive, but I’ve only seen a little difference.


I wouldn't look for a big leap in efficiency out of any of the current propulsion methods. Props are a known entity and have been for a long time, and Hobie has probably got the fins closed to optimized by now as well. What they can work on is exactly what you said; smoothness, reduced friction, noise, durability.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:43 am to
Yeah, displacement is what it is. I have learned over time what my most efficient pedal rate is, and I avoid trying any harder. Just seems like a bunch of waisted energy.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28256 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:54 am to
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 I like the concept a lot in the 360. 


No way I'd pay that what they want for the 360
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
28256 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 11:57 am to
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YOURADHERE


All kayak demos should be done at PAC in that current. Lol
Posted by AutoYes_Clown
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2012
5337 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 12:01 pm to
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Hater...

AlxTgr is a more of a Pungo Kayak guy.

Posted by tz4tigers
louisiana
Member since Aug 2008
34 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 1:44 pm to
I got a used outback we want to unload, 2016 model
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
15930 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:21 pm to
I have a 12.5’ 2016 Native Slayer Propel.

The bad: The drive seems loud and definitely needs to be greased after every use. For that, you’ll need to buy a tool called a Spanner Wrench. The kayak is heavy and loading it in the truck and then onto the cart is a workout. The newer models can use the Boonedox wheel thingie which would be awesome. The build quality wasn’t top notch. The plastic expands and the slot where the drive goes, for example, becomes too small to fit the drive if you don’t have it in already. Same with the seat. There are workarounds for both but I keep a wooden dowel in the drive slot and a piece of lumber that spans the space where the seat goes when not in use to help it keep its shape. The rudder cable has a known issue with snapping but I’ve been lucky so far. The turning radius with the original rudder is not good. If you remove the cover of the slot where the drive goes into, it suddenly develops an incredible gravitational pull and tackle, pliers, scissors, and fish have all disappeared through that hole.

The good: Tons of storage. Extremely stable and the seat is comfortable - I feel very confident even in wavy conditions. The drive works as advertised with instant reverse. Native stood behind their product and sent me a new pedal drive when the original cracked after a couple of months. I love pedaling upwind on a bank, pointing the kayak at the bank, standing up, and letting the wind act like a trolling motor. If I need to make an adjustment, I lean over and push the pedals a turn or two with my hand. In a smaller pond or lake, I won’t even bother with the pedal drive and just use the paddle.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86428 posts
Posted on 9/21/21 at 2:25 pm to
Dude, take my pic down!
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