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re: Mississippi Gulf Coast Billfish Classic week

Posted on 6/12/17 at 7:20 am to
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 7:20 am to
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54158 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 7:34 am to
JJ is pissed on facebook

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Asked them to show me any marks on the transom or the boat and they could not. Their story changed 3 times about how it happened. I physically tried to break the bill from our fish this weekend on the concrete dock in front of tournament official and bystanders and could not even with repeated blows. Oh yea and "they didn't get any video"


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we protested. They didn't dq fish. Lots of iffy things done and said. Including Bobby Carter saying multiple times to multiple people they weighed the fish "in the heat of the moment"
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 7:35 am
Posted by KingRanch
The Ranch
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/12/17 at 7:46 am to
So is JJ insinuating that the fish was caught long before this weekend?
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 7:47 am
Posted by DeltaDoc
The Delta
Member since Jan 2008
16474 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:16 am to
It appears so
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
556 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:18 am to
Hes still mad that they do not want him only fishing wahoo and that he cant place in every marlin tournament.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54158 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:39 am to
quote:

So is JJ insinuating that the fish was caught long before this weekend?


I'm not sure what he is insinuating. If it was caught long before this weekend they would have a tough time keeping it from being obvious. It would take a lot of work.

If what he is saying about no marks, stories changing, and no video is true then I have to admit that it is pretty suspicious
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:39 am to
I don't know any of these people but it seems like this JJ guy is always bitching about something.
Posted by maisweh
Member since Jan 2014
4222 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:52 am to
I think they made some type of rule because of hima while back
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23453 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 8:55 am to
I've seen sailfish without bills, why would it be that crazy for someone to catch a marlin without one? I'm obviously not a marlin guy, but most tournaments your marlin has to have a bill?

Seems to me like if you were going to cheat, you wouldn't do something as obvious as cut off the bill as that does nothing but draw attention.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 8:57 am
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54158 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:14 am to
quote:

why would it be that crazy for someone to catch a marlin without one?


the bill was supposedly on during the fight and broke off when he fish hit the props

quote:

but most tournaments your marlin has to have a bill?


most of the time it's up to the discretion of the weigh master/ tournament officials

quote:

Seems to me like if you were going to cheat, you wouldn't do something as obvious as cut off the bill as that does nothing but draw attention.


I don't think JJ is saying they intentionally cut the bill off, he is saying it should be considered a mutilated fish and thus DQ
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23453 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:49 am to
Generally the prevention of mutiliated fish is to prevent cheating right? I mean I don't see how a broken off bill helps someone? If anything that bill weighs 5-10 lbs+ so it reduces the weight right?
Posted by CP3
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
7551 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 9:55 am to
ThT post is about to get interesting






Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:05 am to
This is the most suspicious part to me: "they didn't get any video" Don't most of these guys film everything? I know it's required for catch & release points

Some other fun stuff from the rule book of the MGCBC vs IGFA

The tournament committee reserves the right to reject any fish entry because of poor condition or one that does not meet the eligible requirements set by this tournament. The condition of the fish will be left to the scrutiny of the tournament committee. THEIR DECISION IS FINAL.

All state record winners must submit to and pass in a conclusive manner, a polygraph examination administered by a licensed polygraphist provided by tournament officials. All entrants agree to submit to a polygraph examination at the request of the tournament committee if there is a conflict involving said entrant. Failure to submit to such an examination will result in disqualification of the entrant at the sole discretion of the tournament committee.

IGFA
The following situations will disqualify a catch:

2. Mutilation to the fish, prior to landing or boating the catch, caused by sharks, other fish, mammals, or propellers that remove or penetrate the flesh.
(Injuries caused by leader or line, scratches, old healed scars or regeneration deformities are not considered to be disqualifying injuries.) Any mutilation on the fish must be shown in a photograph and fully explained in a separate report accompanying the record application.
This post was edited on 6/12/17 at 10:14 am
Posted by Iron Sights
Member since Apr 2017
155 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:23 am to
What place did that fish finish?
Posted by xenon16
Metry Brah
Member since Sep 2008
3592 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:28 am to
1st

Anyone know the story that JJ's referring to on Dorland?
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:33 am to
Looks like that fish got run over by a boat and these guys rolled up on a freshly dead tournament winner.

I took my family up there for part of the weigh in. It was cool.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:34 am to
1st
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:35 am to
quote:

Looks like that fish got run over by a boat and these guys rolled up on a freshly dead tournament winner.


If that was the case I hope they took every cent of their winnings and walked right into the casino with it.
Posted by redneck
Los Suenos, Costa Rica
Member since Dec 2003
54158 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Looks like that fish got run over by a boat and these guys rolled up on a freshly dead tournament winner


I don't think losing the bill would kill a marlin but I'm not an expert
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 6/12/17 at 10:44 am to
That fish looks like it got smoked in the face...that would.

My scenario is completely made up, I'm just saying that it fits all accounts of the story.
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