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Marsh land lost from Ida. Pics

Posted on 12/28/21 at 1:41 am
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
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Member since Oct 2020
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 1:41 am
We had about 800 acres on the south side of little lake, plum point. About 8 miles east of Galliano. We already had an erosion problem but Ida destroyed it. Every storm that passes the destruction gets worse in multiples. Sucks because I won't be able to take my kids hunting there. You can go on Google Earth on the program you download on the computer and it has the updated images. You can go on the history and change the dates. They have 2 different images from September because one had a bunch of clouds.



Rough outline of property


I had duck blinds I built 5-10 feet back from the water that were now in the water before Ida. Another bad storm or 2 and those westbank levee's will be tested with 0 marsh protection, not like they have much now.

Places that they put the seawalls around the marsh did ok. If you got land and some connections try and get them before it's gone.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8391 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 3:20 am to
Sorry to see that happen to your place. We aren’t supposed to be living here. We are on a floodplain of the Mississippi River that is sinking rapidly.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
32638 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 5:22 am to
It’s crazy how much permanent destruction that can come from 1 storm.

The right pressure and on one day the ground will never be the same again
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:09 am to
We're supposed to be here, just not with a river thats trapped by levees.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30570 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:11 am to
Did they trust the science 90 years ago when they leveed the ms river off and dug all those canals?


man sped geologic change up to warp speed.


But this gives incredible ammo for the "climate change" crusaders. just like isle jean charles. climate change and sea level rise is like .0001% of the problem.


if this were on the east coast or west coast it would have been solved 50 years ago.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 6:12 am
Posted by sonoma8
Member since Oct 2006
7666 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 6:40 am to
That sad man... i helped install some of those seawalls in little lake to help pay for college.
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
4463 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:11 am to
Is the Mid Barataria Diversion going to help your property at all? Not sure about the reaches of this project.
Posted by BadatBourre
Member since Jan 2019
741 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 7:40 am to
Still don't understand why we are shredding trees from storm damage instead of placing them in the marshes to try help rebuild or at least slow it down a bit. Such a waste.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:23 am to
quote:

man sped geologic change up to warp speed.


You’re right but it is not from global warming it’s from the taming of the MS River. No more natural delta formation everything outside the levees is on borrowed time.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 8:27 am to
It cannot be "solved" without getting rid of all the levees and flow controls east of the Great plains.

Too much economic impact. Wont happen. Best we can do is pile rocks up everywhere.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8391 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:11 am to
quote:

We're supposed to be here, just not with a river thats trapped by levees.


If the river were not trapped by levees the habitable land in South Louisiana could not support the population we have. I’m sure you look at satellite maps. Every where in between every major Bayou headed South would flood regularly.

Every place you see green or cypress trees would regularly flood. We are on an alluvial floodplain that is sinking.

There is no way to replicate what the Mississippi River built with water diversion project s and Christmas trees.

This place was built over thousands of years with the Mississippi running at full bore. You can’t recreate a geological timeline.

South Louisiana is meant to support a few Indians that could head to the high ground when the Mississippi would flood.

I know this is an unpopular opinion,if you study the Mississippi and understand elevations you know this is true.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 9:15 am
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:16 am to
Oh yea you're right. This state/country has gone to very vast lengths to protect new orleans' status as a world port, and lots of people are living where they shouldn't be these days.

Where my house is though, was chosen because it didn't flood in the spring pre-levees.

There is no "solution" that's digestible for anybody in this state.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 9:17 am to
Bingo
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/28/21 at 10:45 am to
How did you find updated satellite images?
Posted by WillyL
Member since Jan 2017
149 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:11 am to
My buddy farms the sugarcane south of that area. After the storm he found the roof to one of the boats sheds from Clovelly in his field, along with tons (literally) of marsh grass. Based on a google map distance calculator, the shed was found 3.5 miles south of the launch.
Posted by snapper26
Member since Nov 2015
521 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 11:12 am to
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How did you find updated satellite images?



Just went to google earth program from my computer.

Slide the historical imagry button forward to the 9/21 images. Lots of cloud cover and low light but they are there.
Posted by ReadyPlayer1
Clown World
Member since Oct 2020
1062 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:10 pm to
I think by the time they do the mid Barataria diversion it will be to late. It needed to be done 20 years ago. Probably have another 20 years of studies at this point. Also I think it would need to come all the way out to bayou barataria and not just the east side. The wax has had success building up land slowly. We are losing it here faster then what the wax is building it up there.

My parents still live in Lafitte area and it was my grandpa's house that has 2x4s that measure that. Never flooded until a few storms after Katerina. They only had a few inches then. They had 4 1/2 feet for Ida. The marsh was piled up in their yard and shoved up along side their house.

Google Earth computer program is a great tool for looking a land changes. As far as clouds for September they had 2 different September dates and 1 had clouds and the other didn't. The historical clock is the little clock at the top with a green arrow going around it. Click on that and a slide bar pops up and you can usually go back to the 90s for imagery.
Posted by ChadJones4Heisman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2008
2406 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 12:23 pm to
Terrible and sad.
Posted by Bigfishchoupique
Member since Jul 2017
8391 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

This state/country has gone to very vast lengths to protect new orleans' status as a world port, and lots of people are living where they shouldn't be these days.


New Orleans is a 300 year old mistake. Bienville set up there because it was a defensible area of the Mississippi. And Bayou St John came in from the North allowing two approaches from sea.

I’m talking about Terrebonne-Lafourche and other coastal communities. You had fishing,trapping and some farming that drove Terrebonne-Lafourche’s economy until oil became a major factor. The place was sparsely populated then.

And every coastal community from Florida to Mexico has taken a big hit or been wiped out in the last 150 years. Besides our area the Deltaic Plain is sinking rapidly and you can’t stop it. Bedrock is pretty far down.

I’ve watched the major part of the marshes and barrier islands was away since I can remember. Almost 60 years as I just made 64.

It makes me very sad.
This post was edited on 12/28/21 at 3:42 pm
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90630 posts
Posted on 12/28/21 at 4:14 pm to
What happens if you own land like that and it just disappears like that? Do you just have to lose it or will insurance pay you for the value of land lost?
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