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Posted on 6/27/19 at 7:03 am to jsmoke222000
Not many would have an issue with it if there is evidence to back it up. Don’t just lower it because your local watering hole dried up and you can’t catch fish anymore.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:00 am to PapaPogey
For the past couple of years the speck fishing has really been down. I can sink the boat with small, undersized trout but finding schools of quality 16-18 inch trout has been tough. I still find some but even the winter marsh fishing was down a good bit.
The thing is the vast majority of weekend fishermen do not catch limits of specks on a regular basis. The reason the guides catch so many is that they are on the water daily and can pattern and locate the trout much easier.
I would agree with a 15 creel limit, but I am concerned that a 14 inch minimum would be tougher to swallow. I just don't think most of the habitat in La. produces giant trout. Of course there are areas that historically have produced huge gator trout but that is not the norm. I have no biological data to back this up, it is more of an impression I have gotten after chasing trout for over 40 years the last 20 or so on the La. coast.
The thing is the vast majority of weekend fishermen do not catch limits of specks on a regular basis. The reason the guides catch so many is that they are on the water daily and can pattern and locate the trout much easier.
I would agree with a 15 creel limit, but I am concerned that a 14 inch minimum would be tougher to swallow. I just don't think most of the habitat in La. produces giant trout. Of course there are areas that historically have produced huge gator trout but that is not the norm. I have no biological data to back this up, it is more of an impression I have gotten after chasing trout for over 40 years the last 20 or so on the La. coast.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:18 am to PapaPogey
quote:very reliable sources tell me the evidence is there...
Not many would have an issue with it if there is evidence to back it up. Don’t just lower it because your local watering hole dried up and you can’t catch fish anymore.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 8:27 am to choupiquesushi
This thread delivers. It's got a bit of everything.
Personally I don't care if the limit changes or stays the same. I like to fish for a bit of everything and like figuring out new patterns/areas.
No one can deny that conditions are changing though. Coastal erosion and influx of fresh water are changing Coastal Louisiana trout fisheries.
Anglers need to adapt...
Personally I don't care if the limit changes or stays the same. I like to fish for a bit of everything and like figuring out new patterns/areas.
No one can deny that conditions are changing though. Coastal erosion and influx of fresh water are changing Coastal Louisiana trout fisheries.
Anglers need to adapt...
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:08 am to wahoocs
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I have a camp south of Houma.
Do you want to sell it? I'm in the market.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:17 am to wahoocs
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I like catching more than fishing, but prefer topwater when possible.
That's understandable. Nothing is stopping you from catching as many fish as you can.
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So, maybe I’m spoiled. But getting to make maybe 6 day trips during the spawn, where I have to leave my house at 2 am and drive 3 hours to get in the boat and drive another 30 min to make 15 casts when the bite is on, then come home?
What is the point of the camp if you aren't staying there? Once again, you don't have to leave once you reach your limit.
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I quit fishing snapper, and quit hunting for the same reasons. Just not enough return on the investment for me. I don’t sit in a stand and stalk one deer all season either. I don’t cast 100 times to catch one bass, then release it.
Are you selling #TeamZiplok stickers? Can I get one with the GPS unit? Just out of curiosity, where do you draw the line on ROI? Because fishing will never be a net positive.
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It’s my prerogative
Absolutely. It sounds like you might be better off selling everything and getting a guide anytime you want to fish.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:52 am to LSU2001
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I have no biological data to back this up, it is more of an impression
Seems to be a pattern amongst the change the limit crowd.
I can provide my own anecdotal evidence and say I’ve had very good years the last 2-3.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 9:57 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 9:56 am to Drunken Crawfish
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Because fishing will never be a net positive.
That’s fine, but there’s a point where it’s not even worth going out. Look at people loading up boats with 8-10 people to make it worth it to go snapper fishing.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:06 am to HotKoolaid
There are 5 camps for sale within 200 yards of me.
Unfortunately, my area is south of the Bubba Dove.
Call a realtor. They'll keep you all day looking at a variety of camps.
Good luck.
Unfortunately, my area is south of the Bubba Dove.
Call a realtor. They'll keep you all day looking at a variety of camps.
Good luck.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:07 am to LSU2001
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For the past couple of years the speck fishing has really been down. I can sink the boat with small, undersized trout but finding schools of quality 16-18 inch trout has been tough.
I would put a lot of this on beach erosion. In the past 15 years the beaches in the Cocodrie area have been cut in half. Less place to spawn = Lower # of trout.
I would be interested if raising the size limit to 14 would increase fish size proportionally. Or is it that the larger the fish, the more elusive they are?
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:15 am to Drunken Crawfish
I agree with you.
I will likely just golf.
My kids extracurriclars have kept me from anything other than an overnight stay, and hardly that, between baseball and soccer.
As far as fishing after the box is full, my dad always frowned on tearing up their mouths, damaging the fishery LOL
I may be able to adapt to catch and release.
Sounds like my level of passion for the sport may get tested.
I will likely just golf.
My kids extracurriclars have kept me from anything other than an overnight stay, and hardly that, between baseball and soccer.
As far as fishing after the box is full, my dad always frowned on tearing up their mouths, damaging the fishery LOL
I may be able to adapt to catch and release.
Sounds like my level of passion for the sport may get tested.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:28 am to wahoocs
I may be in the minority here but I rarely keep full limits of fish, particularly trout. I just don't need that many fish in my freezer. I've got nothing against people who catch and keep their limit though. I haven't kept a redfish in atleast 3 years, probably a little longer but I go sight fishing for them all the time. I have spent many days catching 30+ fish and putting them right back in the water. The 5 fish limit on reds and the slot limit has never discouraged me from catching fish or spending more time on the water after reaching my limit on the rare occasions that I did keep the fish. I enjoy fishing and I don't let the limits set forth by the state discourage me from doing what I enjoy. The rules only say what you can keep, not how many or what size you can catch.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:28 am to wahoocs
Th sampling methods of the wildlife and fisheries has flaws. The gill nets/seines/trammel nets are placed in the exact same spots every month over and over again. There is also operator error when it comes to using these nets. I know because I used to do this job with the ldwf. There are some dumbazz biologists out there that shouldn’t be running a boat. We have been catching limits of trout consistently for the past two years, when the weather cooperates.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:31 am to wahoocs
Catch and release screw that. I keep until I get my limit then stop ( sometimes). I love showing pictures of ice chest full of bass to a guy at work, because he gets mad that I keep them. He goes fishing all day to catch them and throw them back. I catch and keep so many fish that I have to give them anyway all the time. ( Now lets see where this goes )
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:37 am to choupiquesushi
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Is over fishing the cause or is it our degrading estuary habitat that may finally be catching up with us?
BOTH!
The science is there for a change. To what? who knows. They (LDWF) have been rumbling about it for years, but for some reason, the powers that be in the STATE of LA want to keep it high to preserve the look of "sportsmans paradise"
Supposedly this was the biggest reason for no change after the BP spill, which was because the state couldn't take another hit on it's tourism money. At that time I heard from folks on the inside they were looking at 10 per person and 14" minimum because that's how bad its gotten. Yet all they want to do is "re-evaluate" their sampling methods.
This post was edited on 6/27/19 at 10:44 am
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:42 am to Drunken Crawfish
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Once again, you don't have to leave once you reach your limit
K, then at that point you’re chumming and feeding the sharks and dolphins.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:52 am to TJG210
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then at that point you’re chumming and feeding the sharks and dolphins.
After limiting do the below if you want to catch/release trout
1. De barb the hook (press down barb with pliers).
2. Use single hooks, not trebles.
3. Do not handle specks with bare hands removing natural coating "slime" and scales.
4. Net the fish, do not sling them around everywhere.
Posted on 6/27/19 at 10:54 am to TopWaterTiger
quote:this is correct... except the number was 15
At that time I heard from folks on the inside they were looking at 10 per person and 14" minimum because that's how bad its gotten
Posted on 6/27/19 at 11:02 am to choupiquesushi
Im also all for canning trout tournaments or restricting them with a harsher set of guidelines. Tournament fishing in general needs to go.
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