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re: Looking into my first camper

Posted on 8/15/22 at 10:51 am to
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15905 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 10:51 am to
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If you read some of the threads on camper dedicated sites, those guys will scare you to death. My take had been that most of them are a bit too cautious. I always pulled with a 1/2 ton, and had two different 5th wheels that were no issue at all. I shopped by pin weight, and always had my brake guy keep the brakes in tip top shape. I swear I stopped faster towing than not.



Yea. getting wrapped up in that will have you thinking you need a $90K 1 ton dully or you shouldn't be pulling.

Sad thing is I've lost out on several nice campers for really good prices that I was under the impression that I couldn't pull only to find out recently, Yea I could have pulled the hell out of them safely with my 1/2 ton.

The thing that has me baffled currently is the trailer brakes controlled through an app on your phone. This doesn't seem safe or reliable. Maybe I'm old fashioned or don't completely understand it. Probably both.
Posted by TigerInCbus
Raymond
Member since Feb 2018
361 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 11:01 am to
No worries haha when I bought it towing a camper was not anywhere on my radar. Was mainly meant to be my daily driver that I could pull a U-Haul with if necessary.

I live in Eastern Ohio now, so right on the edge of Appalachian Mountains. Not sure how much I would venture into the mountains per se, but the areas I am in will definitely have it's fair share of hills.
Posted by lsugrad35
Jambalaya capital of the world
Member since Feb 2007
3315 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 11:03 am to
Once you get one, you'll still always want a bigger truck I think. I pull my ultralite at 5700 lbs dry with a 2017 F150 5.0. It pulls and it stops, but you can feel it back there. And when I got the camper originally, it squatter more than I wanted. So I had bags installed. I'd still love to have a 3/4 ton truck

When you get into campgrounds and look at some of these rigs you'll want to upgrade even more.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86487 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 11:09 am to
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The thing that has me baffled currently is the trailer brakes controlled through an app on your phone. This doesn't seem safe or reliable. Maybe I'm old fashioned or don't completely understand it. Probably both.

I was completely satisfied with the controller box and the little adjustment arm. I would have to make small adjustments after it sat for long periods.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 11:19 am to
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Good news is, sounds like you can justify a new truck.


The day my dad bought his camper and pulled it home, first thing he said was "I think I need a bigger truck!"

I laughed and thought he was half joking. 2 weeks later he traded the F-150 in for a 250.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7237 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 12:07 pm to
Try a pop up. Stores in your garage or back yard. Easy to pull. Learn how much the family enjoys camping.
Posted by ct4lsu
BR
Member since Jan 2008
1208 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 12:49 pm to
No matter which one you decide , the biggest thing will be roof/seal maintenance. If possible store under cover. If you don’t have a roof, at least get a fabric cover.
The worse thing for these things are leaving them out in the sun/weather.
If you are buying new that’s great, if used, check tires and soft spots, possibly check with a moisture meter. Front and rear corners should be looked at closely. Roof and floor.
Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7502 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 1:01 pm to
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1. Know that they are all made pretty crappy. Things break. It's just what it is.


This times a million. If you're not handy, they can drive you crazy.

There are only really 2 manufacturers that make up like 85% of the market. Top 3 make up over like 95%. They make them fast and they make them cheap. Unless you're going with a small custom builder, don't expect top quality.

We have a rear living that I keep on GI during the summer. I thought that would be great for just the wife and I, and it would be. But we seem to have guests every time we are down there and it is terrible. Air mattresses and fold out couches take up the entire living area.

I would go with either a bunkhouse, like stated earlier or a Toy Hauler. Toy Haulers have a garage in the rear that doubles as a bunkhouse when the Toy is removed. A lot of them also have lofts and rear patios.

I would add that you don't only want 2 ac units, but you want 2-15k btu units just to make sure it can cool off.

Renting is probably a great idea, as mentioned above. If you run the numbers on owning an rv vs renting, you would have to use it a LOT to justify the cost. Rvs are not cheap, they aren't cheap to maintain, storage fees add up if applicable, insirance is $50/month, campsites cost money and they depreciate quickly. You can rent a lot of hotels for the same money.
Posted by Joe Cigar
Breaux Bridge
Member since Mar 2021
426 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 1:27 pm to
I have two that I rent if you are interested. They are both bumper pull bunkhouses with slideout's (30' and a 26'). I will probably be selling the 26' in the next few months. Like the others on here mentioned. Storing under a cover and constant roof maintenance is essential to the life of the unit.
Posted by CoyoteSong
Colorado
Member since Aug 2021
2603 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 1:56 pm to
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1. Know that they are all made pretty crappy. Things break. It's just what it is.


My buddy has one. He said after most long trips he will find screws, nuts, etc.. laying on the floor inside the camper. Then he has to figure how where the heck they came from.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86487 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 2:42 pm to
quote:

Try a pop up
I would quit camping before having one of these.
Posted by thejudge
Westlake, LA
Member since Sep 2009
15071 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:10 pm to
OP what do you want it for? What kind of camping?
Then get one for that.

I converted and 22ft cargo trailer. Lightweight. Easy to clean. Multipurpose. Basically hard tent camping with an AC. Bought some nice cots. Have a sink and bathroom for night use. TV.

Easy to run off a generator. Drop rear door, unload, blow it out with leaf blower and put it up.



We use it at the lease. Pull out the 4 wheelers and the firebowl. Close the door turn on the AC.

My next one will be longer and have lights on the outside as well as an awning.

We can unload and be done in 20 minutes setup outside ready to go. Bring it to the beach. Easy to haul bikes and the kids shite. When they were smaller I've hauled play equipment with us.

This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 9:22 pm
Posted by Snipe
Member since Nov 2015
15905 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Try a pop up


quote:

Learn how much the family enjoys camping.


Or how much you don't enjoy your family.

Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
73296 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 3:42 pm to
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Renting is probably a great idea, as mentioned above. If you run the numbers on owning an rv vs renting, you would have to use it a LOT to justify the cost.


I have ran these numbers. That's why we continue to rent.

Another bonus is not having to maintain it. Also I live 20 minutes from one of the biggest rental places in the SE so drop-off and pickup aren't much of a hassle.
Posted by Mahootney
Lovin' My German Footprint
Member since Sep 2008
12125 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 5:51 pm to
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have an F150 with the 2.7L Eco in it. I'm thinking a dry weight around 4-4.5k lbs so that when it's loaded up I still have some wiggle room with the capacity the truck can safely pull.
Towing and stopping is not usually where you max out first. It is the cargo capacity of the truck, especially if you get a 5th wheel.
Those back leaf springs can't handle a whole lot.
Add passengers, ice chests, bikes, firewood, pin weight. It adds up quickly.
Don't let the forums convince you that you have to have a dually for even the smallest trailers, but also don't neglect the cargo capacity; even 3/4 tons don't have alot.
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted by Gabapentin
Member since Mar 2022
374 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:14 pm to
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Posted by BoostAddict
Member since Jun 2007
3160 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:29 pm to
Agree with others on the towing.
It's f'ng miserable, at least to me, trying to pull long hills with a gas engine. They just won't do it. I guess that's why my current RV is on a big rig chassis. lol

Expect 6-8mpg. No matter what you're driving/towing.

Get some tools. A good jack and impact to change the inevitable flat tire as the tires they put on RVs are trash. Drill/driver, screws/bolts/nuts assortment, construction adhesive, Flex Seal, wire, fuses, multi-meter, grinder w/ cut off wheel, bottle jack, zip ties, duct tape, JB Weld, quick set epoxy. Needless to say, I've done a lot of RV camping the last 20+ years and have had to fix just about everything you can think of on these pieces of crap. And ALL of them are junk, no matter the price range.

Also don't count on the dealer to fix it in any reasonable time frame. Likely they won't, particularly for warranty work.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
6379 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:30 pm to
Yes they are. I interviewed once at Camping World and that place is a fine tuned machine to take your money run by a cult. Completely slimy from the top down.
Posted by Pvt Hudson
Member since Jan 2013
4717 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:30 pm to
Skip the “starter”. Buy the nicer one now. As mentioned, two ACs a good idea.

Don’t be afraid of Craigslist for a 2-3 year old nicer model. Make sure it was recreational and not lived in. You can save tons by getting all the “equipment” from someone else (tow hitch, sewer lines, hoses, etc. Wouldn’t go any older than 3 years on a used one.
Posted by Pandy Fackler
Member since Jun 2018
21114 posts
Posted on 8/15/22 at 6:41 pm to
I have a hybrid camper and looooove it. None of your floor space is devoted to bedding.

Just make sure you get a camper with a toilet and shower.

Oh and for christ's sake buy used.

This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 6:43 pm
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