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Let’s talk new shoutgun and getting adjusted to it...

Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:46 pm
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6408 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:46 pm
So I grew up shooting an 870. It’s the first gun my dad put in my hands and outside of deer hunting I used it for every thing. I shot a 20 gauge until I was about 14 and I moved up to a 12 gauge both were old wingmasters and they were bullet proof. The gun felt comfortable and it’s what I’m use to. Well at the end of last bird season I decided to buy a semi auto as the pump life was getting old. I purchased an SX4 because that gun felt like it fit me the best out of all the guns I shouldered when I was checking out new guns. I have put about 300-400 rounds through it and the gun has performed flawlessly but I just can’t hit shite with it. With the 870 and a round of sporting clays I usually shot 70 or 80 out of 100. Nothing great but I would say I was a fair shot. With this new SX4 I’m around 40 or 50 after two rounds of 100 sporting clays.

Anyone else had issues getting adjusted to a new shotgun? I plan on putting another couple hundred rounds through it and if I can’t figure it out I may move to another gun. I know it’s got nothing to do with the gun and it’s all me, but damn I can’t hit shite with it haha.
Posted by down time
space
Member since Oct 2013
1914 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:48 pm to
Yep it happens to most people
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:56 pm to
The guns do not have the same dimensions and are not shooting in the same place for you. Pattern them.
Posted by LSUEnvy
Hou via Lake Chas
Member since May 2011
12102 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 5:56 pm to
Had the same problem several years back and went on a dove hunt with the new gun. Then it “clicked” and I couldn’t miss. Keep at it.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 5:57 pm
Posted by GeauxTime9
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Dec 2010
6408 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:07 pm to
quote:

The guns do not have the same dimensions and are not shooting in the same place for you. Pattern them.


I’ll do that next weekend, thanks.
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
45814 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:31 pm to
Youtube video on gun fitting This might help you understand a little more on fitting and constant fit.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25005 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:39 pm to
Get the gun (empty of course) and shoulder it while your eyes are closed.

Open your eyes. If you are looking down the barrel perfectly then the gun fits you.

I have two benellis and they both required to be shimmed for cast and drop. After that they were perfect.

Not sure if the SX4 comes with shims or not.
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 6:48 pm to
You probably know this already, but Bridgeview has a patterning board.

FWIW it's a little hard use scores from sporting clays courses as a metric due to differences from course to course (although the difference between 40 and 80 is huge). That said, skeet or trap might be a better method for comparison due to more consistent target paths. (But this is only after you've done the patterning and also confirmed that the new gun doesn't need stock adjustments).

Good luck - it can be frustrating.
Posted by MSWebfoot
Hernando
Member since Oct 2011
3263 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 7:33 pm to
Years ago I went from an 870 to a super nova. It was horrible for me. I could not hit the broadside of a barn. I kept it one season and traded it for a deer rifle.
I did not have any issure going from and 870 to the SX2.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:16 pm to
I went from an 870 to a benelli and it took a good while for me to start hitting with it. The gun fits far different than the 870
Posted by aldawg2323
Lafayette
Member since Jan 2010
411 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 8:23 pm to
Very similar story for me. Went from 20+ yr relationship with 12ga 870, now 2 yrs in with 20 ga SX3. I dont shoot much anymore, teal season and one good dove hunt a year. Was and is a struggle to transition. Oddly, ive grown to feel like the 20 shoots faster, and i was out in front of the teal early every morning (made 5 hunts this season). This morning i shot 15 shells or so before i cut a feather, then killed 6 of the last 7 birds i shot at. Started hitting when i pulled back on the lead

I dont shoot enough to stay in form, and I'll likely revert back to my 870 form when i pick my gun up again.

ETA i love the gun though, fast and light. If i ever go back to a 12 will likely just get the same model. My grandfather was a big skeet shooter, all 4 gauges weighed exactly the same for these reasons.
This post was edited on 9/30/18 at 8:47 pm
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
17163 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 10:01 pm to
Went from r1100 to an r1187 and now an Affinity.

The only part that sucked for me was gas to inertia.
Posted by hogdaddy
Krotz Springs
Member since Feb 2010
5153 posts
Posted on 9/30/18 at 10:32 pm to
Try pattern your shotgun with large paper plates or sheets of paper on a piece of plywood. Found out last year that my BPS was shooting a foot high.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
TD Platinum member
Member since Nov 2016
2687 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:29 am to
For sure look at cast and drop, and pattern it. You may be able to get an aftermarket choke to center the pattern. Factory chokes that come with Winchester & browning aren't that great. I cast off the stock on my Maxus and it naturally lines up for me now.
Posted by GeauxTigers0107
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
9731 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:37 pm to
Yeah that's the best advice you can give someone. I agree. I had a friend who is Master class in NSCA help with me with selection then fitment, which didn't need much. The pattern board told the story though. Benelli Super Sport, btw.
Posted by ZeekFreak
Member since Jun 2017
583 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 2:56 pm to
you dont adjust to it, you go pick them up until it fits you and buy what fits you/not what's "popular"
Posted by dawg23
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Jul 2011
5065 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

Oddly, ive grown to feel like the 20 shoots faster, and i was out in front of the teal early every morning (made 5 hunts this season).
As you probably know, lighter guns swing faster. So we often swing too far in front of the target when suddenly using a lighter/shorter shotgun. It takes some conscious attention until we develop an unconscious habit.

May not be this way for everybody, but I've seen it a lot on the sporting clays fields.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25005 posts
Posted on 10/1/18 at 7:58 pm to
quote:

you dont adjust to it, you go pick them up until it fits you and buy what fits you/not what's "popular"


Quality semi’s have shims for cast and drop.
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