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legal question about exotics
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:36 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:36 am
So apparently i have a fallow buck running around the farm i hunt in Oklahoma. It must've escaped from a high fence place. The game warden told me that there are no rules regarding the taking of said exotic, but wasn't sure about "ownership" issues. He said it probably belonged to someone and they may not like me shooting the deer. He seemed to equate it to a cow that got out.
So my question is basically-shoot or don't shoot? Does the escaped deer on private property belong to someone else. They would be trespassing even if they wanted to get the deer back. I can see both sides i guess.
Here's a pic of said deer.
So my question is basically-shoot or don't shoot? Does the escaped deer on private property belong to someone else. They would be trespassing even if they wanted to get the deer back. I can see both sides i guess.
Here's a pic of said deer.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 11:40 am
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:37 am to arbe25
Shoot it. Don’t announce it
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:39 am to arbe25
quote:
"ownership" issues
The only ownership issue I see is that owner should have built a better fence.
Is the property that the fallow escaped from directly next to yours?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:43 am to Saskwatch
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Is the property that the fallow escaped from directly next to yours?
No. I'm familiar with the owners/land within about a couple mile radius and there are no high fence places that i'm aware of.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:43 am to Saskwatch
It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties if caught. Same as if you shot someones cow that had got out.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:45 am to Tbooux
If it’s not eat tagged, how do you know it’s owned?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:47 am to arbe25
quote:
I'm familiar with the owners/land within about a couple mile radius and there are no high fence places that i'm aware of.
Sounds like a wild animal to me. I don't deer hunt though.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:48 am to Tbooux
There were some elk that got out after a hurricane near me. The owner made it known that he wanted them shot on sight. Supposedly he would be liable if someone hit them with their vehicle.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:50 am to arbe25
Don't go on facebook bragging about your trophy and you will be fine.
I think I'd just let him roam though
I think I'd just let him roam though
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:50 am to Tbooux
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It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties
So you are saying that there could be a law in Oklahoma that identifies high fenced deer as livestock?
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:08 pm to arbe25
No ear tag or brand on him = flop and gravy to me
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:14 pm to arbe25
Got a very similar situation going on up here right now. A fallow deer doe is loose and Green Jeans has been trying to kill it for two years now. I talked with him about it last week and he told me they wanted this deer dead and then have it tested for disease. He said their greatest concern was due to the fact they didn't know where it originated and suspected it escaped from a deer farm or high fence area. Since deer farms and high fence are the #1 origin for CWD and other diseases, they would not write a ticket to anyone for killing the doe, even it was out of season, provided the deer is killed lawfully, e. g. during daylight hours, on private property, and not spotlighted. Some of the tree huggers here have objected, of course, but this fallow doe is effectively living under a death sentence. They only require that whoever kills the deer to contact them and they will pick it up and have it tested. This is in Virginia, btw.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:19 pm to arbe25
when i was still hunting in texas we used to see several exotics roaming around: fallow deer, axis, aoudad, and the occasional sika. we always killed them and never gave it a second thought. the rancher we leased from didn't have a problem with it either.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:25 pm to arbe25
I promise you, the owner wants that deer shot. If a car hits that deer, the owner will be held responsible. If that deer tears up something, the owner will be held responsible.
As others have said, choot it.
As others have said, choot it.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:28 pm to Tbooux
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It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties if caught. Same as if you shot someones cow that had got out.
I've been told the exact opposite. I've been told they are considered an invasive species and they want them shot immediately.
Livestock you can realistically catch and return. How realistic is it to return an exotic deer/ antelope? You'd have to hunt it with a tranquilizer.
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:33 pm to arbe25
That thing would be sausage if it walked on my property.....
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:39 pm to mack the knife
LDWF says shoot onsite. If you feel it is sick call them they will test it otherwise enjoy. They do not want them to accidentally populate.
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