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legal question about exotics

Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:36 am
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:36 am
So apparently i have a fallow buck running around the farm i hunt in Oklahoma. It must've escaped from a high fence place. The game warden told me that there are no rules regarding the taking of said exotic, but wasn't sure about "ownership" issues. He said it probably belonged to someone and they may not like me shooting the deer. He seemed to equate it to a cow that got out.

So my question is basically-shoot or don't shoot? Does the escaped deer on private property belong to someone else. They would be trespassing even if they wanted to get the deer back. I can see both sides i guess.

Here's a pic of said deer.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 11:40 am
Posted by jmkidder
lafayette
Member since Sep 2005
476 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:37 am to
Shoot it
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:37 am to
Shoot it. Don’t announce it
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16562 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:39 am to
quote:

"ownership" issues


The only ownership issue I see is that owner should have built a better fence.

Is the property that the fallow escaped from directly next to yours?
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:43 am to
quote:

Is the property that the fallow escaped from directly next to yours?


No. I'm familiar with the owners/land within about a couple mile radius and there are no high fence places that i'm aware of.
Posted by Tbooux
Member since Oct 2011
1680 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:43 am to
It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties if caught. Same as if you shot someones cow that had got out.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:44 am to
quote:

Shoot it
Posted by LZ83
La
Member since Sep 2016
17406 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:45 am to
If it’s not eat tagged, how do you know it’s owned?
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16562 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I'm familiar with the owners/land within about a couple mile radius and there are no high fence places that i'm aware of.


Sounds like a wild animal to me. I don't deer hunt though.
Posted by CootKilla
In a beer can/All dog's nightmares
Member since Jul 2007
5910 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:48 am to
There were some elk that got out after a hurricane near me. The owner made it known that he wanted them shot on sight. Supposedly he would be liable if someone hit them with their vehicle.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19296 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:50 am to
Don't go on facebook bragging about your trophy and you will be fine.

I think I'd just let him roam though
Posted by arbe25
Member since Sep 2017
388 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 11:50 am to
quote:

It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties


So you are saying that there could be a law in Oklahoma that identifies high fenced deer as livestock?
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27261 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:04 pm to
He looks delicious.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5104 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:08 pm to
No ear tag or brand on him = flop and gravy to me
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
7725 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:14 pm to
Got a very similar situation going on up here right now. A fallow deer doe is loose and Green Jeans has been trying to kill it for two years now. I talked with him about it last week and he told me they wanted this deer dead and then have it tested for disease. He said their greatest concern was due to the fact they didn't know where it originated and suspected it escaped from a deer farm or high fence area. Since deer farms and high fence are the #1 origin for CWD and other diseases, they would not write a ticket to anyone for killing the doe, even it was out of season, provided the deer is killed lawfully, e. g. during daylight hours, on private property, and not spotlighted. Some of the tree huggers here have objected, of course, but this fallow doe is effectively living under a death sentence. They only require that whoever kills the deer to contact them and they will pick it up and have it tested. This is in Virginia, btw.
This post was edited on 10/29/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4185 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:19 pm to
when i was still hunting in texas we used to see several exotics roaming around: fallow deer, axis, aoudad, and the occasional sika. we always killed them and never gave it a second thought. the rancher we leased from didn't have a problem with it either.
Posted by crazycubes
Member since Jan 2016
5256 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:25 pm to
I promise you, the owner wants that deer shot. If a car hits that deer, the owner will be held responsible. If that deer tears up something, the owner will be held responsible.

As others have said, choot it.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20456 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

It is typically considered livestock and you could face fine/penalties if caught. Same as if you shot someones cow that had got out.


I've been told the exact opposite. I've been told they are considered an invasive species and they want them shot immediately.

Livestock you can realistically catch and return. How realistic is it to return an exotic deer/ antelope? You'd have to hunt it with a tranquilizer.
Posted by misterc
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2014
700 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:33 pm to
That thing would be sausage if it walked on my property.....
Posted by Boat Motor Bandit
Member since Jun 2016
1891 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 12:39 pm to
LDWF says shoot onsite. If you feel it is sick call them they will test it otherwise enjoy. They do not want them to accidentally populate.
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