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re: ice an slo-melt ice

Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:33 am to
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6957 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:33 am to
They are not in the cooler in that setup for more than 4 hours. If so I add ice from the kitchen ice maker when I get home.
Thanks for the advice, but they taste fine.
Posted by Artie Rome
Hwy 1
Member since Jul 2014
8757 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 9:42 am to
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They are not in the cooler in that setup for more than 4 hours.


I've done it too. Just read this.

You spend a lot of money on that fish. Maximize it.

"Add up the expenses of your average fishing trip, and the fillets you bring home cost more than the mutant offspring if a wagyu-grade beef cow mated with a Maine lobster."

So true.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 9:44 am
Posted by Tigah in the ATL
Atlanta
Member since Feb 2005
27539 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:00 pm to
Ice is ice. There is no magic way to make ice better.

I have heard of freezing only hot water also. also bunk.

Bigger chunks take longer to melt because less surface area.

But total heat absorbed per pound of ice will be the same.

I did get something out of my time in CEBA.
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5327 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:09 pm to
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Ice is ice. There is no magic way to make ice better.


Actually if the ice is colder up front when you put it in the ice chest, it will last longer (will absorb more heat). All ice is not the same temperature. It's science.

The bigger chunks thing is accurate. They only melt slower because of the reduced surface area. That being said, big chunks will keep an ice chest cold for longer. We buy block ice for long offshore trips. Big, 2'x1.5'x8" blocks. Those things last longer than a yeti.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19234 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:28 pm to
My YETI ice tray ice maker makes the coldest ice ever. Lasts for days. Ill sell yall one.

Posted by DownSouthDave
Member since Jan 2013
7516 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:30 pm to
My thinking was more along the lines of JAB. Using demineralized water with no deposits or gas would give you a better quality ice. Not saying that's right, just my thought.

A fricking engineer, should have known.
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:40 pm to
quote:

There is no magic way to make ice better.



Not magic, but adding rock salt to ice lowers the temperature.
Posted by KG6
Member since Aug 2009
10920 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 12:44 pm to
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rock salt to ice lowers the temperature


It also causes it to melt at a lower temperature. Which doesn't really matter since all you are trying to do is keep something cold. Don't really care if the cold is from solid or liquid.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
4030 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 1:24 pm to
Doesn't it also lower the BTU value required for a phase change to occur which is the main factor in how long the ice will last/how cold it will stay long term.

<<<< not an engineer
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
An Incredibly Distant Star
Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:12 pm to
Add some saltwater to the ice for a slush. Keeping the ice from melting is simply not a worry for me. If you constantly drain water from the box, punch yourself in the nuts. The water provides full contact with the fish and will actually chill the fish faster.

Fun fact, the water is the same temperature as the ice but provides more thermal interaction with the surface of the fish.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 2:13 pm
Posted by Galactic Inquisitor
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Member since Dec 2013
18452 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

Doesn't it also lower the BTU value required for a phase change to occur which is the main factor in how long the ice will last/how cold it will stay long term.



Yes, but it also takes more heat to increase the temperature 1 degree. Said differently, it stays cold longer.

Freezing saltwater

If you could actually get saltwater cold enough to freeze, you'd get a lot more value. The whole "pure H2O" is better argument is flawed. Some minerals may negatively impact its effectiveness, but others may actually help the ice stay frozen.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
4030 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:26 pm to
Yeah I get that water provides a higher surface area to contact and pull heat from the fish, and salt lowers the freezing point of the water allowing it to stay in the liquid state at a lower temperature, but once the ice becomes water isn't it much more likely to heat up faster than I've will due to already going through a phase change?

May not be an issue when you're just talking about a day or two, and this works well for fish, but I'm thinking about deer in a cooler, I don't like the idea of leaving my deer "soaking" in a saltwater slush for a week.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
6957 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 2:42 pm to
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I don't like the idea of leaving my deer "soaking" in a saltwater slush for a week
For deer meat I soak it in ice/water for 3 days, draining the bloody water once a day and adding more ice. Meat will be pink when you butcher it. Never tried salt, but my method works if you drain the water and keep the meat covered with ice.
Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
4030 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 3:23 pm to
I'm team no-soak, but I don't think I'll have access to a walk in this year.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 3:27 pm to
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Slo-melt is the tits.

Don't think it has any chemicals.


Yes, Dave, I'm pretty sure it does have chemicals.
That's why you're getting the titts.


Posted by Citica8
Duckroost, LA
Member since Dec 2012
4030 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 4:15 pm to
Dihydrogen monoxide causes thousands of deaths each year, and billions in property damage, it's no joking matter.
Posted by Ole Geauxt
KnowLa.
Member since Dec 2007
50880 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 4:33 pm to
Well gee, let's just quit talkin' bout slow meltin' ice then entirely, everything else, and never be tongue in cheek on this board. I'm a brayn sirjun, not a scientist,, ease up Helen, I don't remember saying I hope anybody gets bit by a poisonous snake, etc.. I don't think anyone on here wants anyone to get sick or die, do you?
Pull the whatchamacallit monoxides out of your arse, how bout it?


Eta: and who said that there were chemicals in the ice?


The dihydrogen monoxide hoax involves calling water by the unfamiliar chemical name "dihydrogen monoxide" (DHMO), and listing some of water's effects in an alarming manner, such as the fact that it accelerates corrosion and can cause severe burns. The hoax often calls for dihydrogen monoxide to be regulated, labeled as hazardous, or banned. It illustrates how the lack of scientific literacy and an exaggerated analysis can lead to misplaced fears.[1]

The hoax gained renewed popularity in the late 1990s when a 14-year-old student collected anti-DHMO petitions for a science project about gullibility.[2] The story has since been used in science education to encourage critical thinking.
This post was edited on 7/8/15 at 4:49 pm
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 5:00 pm to
frick you guys. I'm buying the magic, super dense ice.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 5:02 pm to
My uncle makes blocks of ice with just leftover orange juice and milk jugs. Just full them up before the top so it won't explode in the deep freeze.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
25190 posts
Posted on 7/8/15 at 5:06 pm to
My uncle makes blocks of ice with just leftover orange juice and milk jugs. Just full them up before the top so it won't explode in the deep freeze.
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