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re: HR 391 (Water Access Rights) Passes 5-3 in committee
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:35 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:35 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
Well, there’s people gating off 100 ft wide bayous and shite, so that would seem like a logical extension
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Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:47 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
I wonder what the Harry Bourg Corp is gonna do with Bayou Labut? Kind of ruins his day, no?
What about the ever popular Benny Cenac? Does he have any waterways he's claiming as private?
What about the ever popular Benny Cenac? Does he have any waterways he's claiming as private?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:49 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:
But it is. In one scenario you have deer, hunter, landowner
In another, you have fish, fisherman, land owner, state owned navigable waterways
WMA, border, hunter, private landowner, deer feets.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:49 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
What about the ever popular Benny Cenac? Does he have any waterways he's claiming as private?
Ol T-Roy Landry too
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:51 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
WMA, border, hunter, private landowner, deer feets.
Does that private landowner provide protection for the state owned deer using a fence?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:55 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:I do not understand the question.
Does that private landowner provide protection for the state owned deer using a fence?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:57 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
I do not understand the question.
When someone fences off their property, isn’t it illegal for them to keep state owned deer there?
ETA: yes I know in most instances the fish are not captive
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 2:58 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 2:59 pm to Boat Motor Bandit
I am not going to touch that, as there have been numerous treatises written on that subject by legal scholars a lot smarter than I. As a Cajun friend once said "now you have opened up Pandora's box of worms." All I will say about that is this, since it is the Gulf of Mexico, a whole different set of rules apply. Alex, care to take a shot at that question?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:04 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:I think so-not sure.
When someone fences off their property, isn’t it illegal for them to keep state owned deer there?
quote:There you have it.
yes I know in most instances the fish are not captive
And if no fence, then those resources come and go. When they leave the WMA, they are no longer fair game to us.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:05 pm to AlxTgr
They are restricting access to a state owned resource swimming in a state owned resource that borders/crosses their property. The principles are the same even if the mechanics are not
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:06 pm to byutgr
quote:No, but I suspect that:
Alex, care to take a shot at that question?
quote:
since it is the Gulf of Mexico, a whole different set of rules apply.
I've stated this many times-seashore should be treated differently than a marsh canal. The problem is drawing a line.
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:16 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
The fish are free to swim out into public waters just as a deer is free to jump a barbed wire fence...
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:18 pm to bayoudude
quote:
The fish are free to swim out into public waters
This is the point that is being missed. What makes it private waters?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:19 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:It wasn't navigable in 1812, so it did not vest with the State.
What makes it private waters?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:23 pm to AlxTgr
quote:
t wasn't navigable in 1812, so it did not vest with the State.
Yes I know that. There are bayous, cuts, etc that have been around since before then that are now blocked off. That’s what people are pissed about
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:27 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
Nah people are pissed they can’t fish all the marsh they want. Anywhere there is a blade of grass sticking out of the water somebody owns it and is paying property tax.
We own over 100 acres of marsh in chauvin on paper but realistically there is maybe 20 acres of actual land if you surveyed every clumpy island. With the exception of a few places most people care less about other people fishing during the summer. The shite hits the fan when duck season comes around then everyone wants to claim ownership so they can put up a blind
We own over 100 acres of marsh in chauvin on paper but realistically there is maybe 20 acres of actual land if you surveyed every clumpy island. With the exception of a few places most people care less about other people fishing during the summer. The shite hits the fan when duck season comes around then everyone wants to claim ownership so they can put up a blind
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 3:38 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
quote:There's no need to change the law then. If that's the case, they can win any suit for access.
Yes I know that. There are bayous, cuts, etc that have been around since before then that are now blocked off. That’s what people are pissed about
Posted on 4/12/18 at 4:41 pm to Thib-a-doe Tiger
That's hardly the case but if it was there'd be no need to change the law. Those waterways are unlawfully gated under current law and the socialist are beating the wrong drum.
Eta: shite Alx did we just become best friends?
Eta: shite Alx did we just become best friends?
This post was edited on 4/12/18 at 4:43 pm
Posted on 4/12/18 at 4:47 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
What about the ever popular Benny Cenac? Does he have any waterways he's claiming as private?
Well yes, yes he does, but if I read this bill correctly, it will do nothing to make him open those.
His gates have been up prior to March 18, or am i missing an amendment to that or reading it wrong?
Posted on 4/12/18 at 9:13 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Eta: shite Alx did we just become best friends?
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves here. That would turn the OB into Bizzaro World.
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