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How much to fill in an acre with dirt?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:21 pm
I'm looking at a 10 acre tract of land that someone sold the dirt from, so now its basically a crappy pond/ swap land. Given I can get the permits to do so, what would be the ballpark to fill in one acre with fill dirt? I'm assuming this is possible?
I'm not entirely sure how deep it is, so would it be possible to take some dirt from the swamp and make some of it buildable?
Obviously I really don't know anything about this. Its just a great location for dirt cheap...I may consider buying it for just the swamp/ pond.
I'm not entirely sure how deep it is, so would it be possible to take some dirt from the swamp and make some of it buildable?
Obviously I really don't know anything about this. Its just a great location for dirt cheap...I may consider buying it for just the swamp/ pond.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:24 pm to baldona
Theres no way to give you a ball park... is it dug out 2', 5', etc. Escpecially over 10 acres even 6" of fill is fairly pricy.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:26 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:28 pm to baldona
Are you talking about wetlands? If so this is a lot tougher to do than it seems you think it is. If it is wetlands you have to deal with the Army Corps of Engineers and it not easy at all to get done. Not because its hard to fill in a pond. Its because the Army Corp doesn't like to let people destroy wetlands these days.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:33 pm to civiltiger07
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Its because the Army Corp doesn't like to let people destroy wetlands these days.
It was regular land someone took the dirt and sold, so now its wetlands basically. It looks 1-2 feet deep of water, there's a bunch of plants and trees in it so I don't think its much deeper than that. Basically looks flooded.
I was just curious if say I had 10 acres of "swamp" that's 1-2 feet under water, how much it would be to have someone take dirt from 3-4 acres and fill in 1 acre to be build able? I realize its not cheap, but this land is super cheap compared to what is around it.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:34 pm to baldona
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great location for dirt cheap
Doesn't sound like it.
Sounds like you would be in over your head. Find a better spot.
Plus, do you really want to be in the middle of 9 acres of "crappie pond/swamp land"?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:36 pm to baldona
Your best bet would probably be to dig out out and make an actual pond.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:38 pm to baldona
In what state are you talking about? You can rent an excavator and dig a deeper pond, then rent a dozer or front end loader and move it yourself.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:38 pm to baldona
Filling one acre with 12" of dirt = 1613 cubic yards of dirt.
A dump truck holds 10-14 cubic yards. So 115 or more dump trucks can add a foot of dirt to one acre if my math is right. Probably around $100 or a little less per load of dirt. Probably looking at $10,000 or more unless my math is waaaaay off.
Definitely more efficient to just have somebody with a dozer push a bunch of dirt from the rest of the acreage over to the acre you want to build up, and/or dig a pond in the process and drain the acreage you want to keep dry into the pond.
A dump truck holds 10-14 cubic yards. So 115 or more dump trucks can add a foot of dirt to one acre if my math is right. Probably around $100 or a little less per load of dirt. Probably looking at $10,000 or more unless my math is waaaaay off.
Definitely more efficient to just have somebody with a dozer push a bunch of dirt from the rest of the acreage over to the acre you want to build up, and/or dig a pond in the process and drain the acreage you want to keep dry into the pond.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 3:41 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:39 pm to DownSouthDave
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do you really want to be in the middle of 9 acres of "crappie pond
Oh sure yeah ya betcha.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:57 pm to CootKilla
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In what state are you talking about? You can rent an excavator and dig a deeper pond, then rent a dozer or front end loader and move it yourself.
This is more what I was thinking, how much would it be to pay someone to do this? I have no idea.
The land is pretty valuable, $100k or so an acre. Probably more in the future. I am looking at the 10 acres for $2-3k an acre. So if I can fill in 1-2 acres for $10-20k, maybe even twice that? I would then have a little bit of land with a pond.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 3:58 pm to baldona
That's going to be a lot of dirt. You're talking 10s of thousands with labor and equipment and all.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to baldona
I would ponder the thought that the previous owner was aware the value of the dirt was more than the value of the land and go from there, seriously.
Buy it and shove up a mound if you wish but hauling dirt back in is a fools errand.
Also just a fyi, the percentage of land in the USA that will bring 100 grand an acre is so small it is statistically insignificant, you may want to dig a little deeper. (Pun intended)
Buy it and shove up a mound if you wish but hauling dirt back in is a fools errand.
Also just a fyi, the percentage of land in the USA that will bring 100 grand an acre is so small it is statistically insignificant, you may want to dig a little deeper. (Pun intended)
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:13 pm to baldona
Ha
If its "worth" 100 gs an acre
Why are they selling it to you for $2000 an acre ??
If its "worth" 100 gs an acre
Why are they selling it to you for $2000 an acre ??
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:14 pm to jimbeam
To calculate the volume of dirt you have to know the length, width and height, without one of the components it is impossible to figure.
Another factor to consider is truck volume vs. in place volume, which can be 15-30% difference. In other works 100 cubic yards in a truck will only fill in a 70-85 cubic yard hole if properly compacted.
Another factor to consider is truck volume vs. in place volume, which can be 15-30% difference. In other works 100 cubic yards in a truck will only fill in a 70-85 cubic yard hole if properly compacted.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:17 pm to baldona
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The land is pretty valuable, $100k or so an acre. Probably more in the future.
How? This all doesn't make sense, at least to me.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:20 pm to baldona
To do this right? You will need to muck out the unsuitable material, dewater, then replace the soil in 8" lifts, and compact as you come up. If you don't, any structure you build will have serious settlement issues.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 4:34 pm to AUCE05
Footage in Width x length x depth / 27 = cubic yards
Posted on 2/27/18 at 5:34 pm to rodnreel
Also need to account for the fact that you pay for 14 loose yards but really only get 12 loose yards.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 5:37 pm to baldona
This is seriously the kind of thread I’d expect from a 16 yr old white subdivision girl.
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