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re: Hey, Wildlife and Fisheries

Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:23 pm to
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:23 pm to
Look this is all I’m going to say on this topic. Florida has it right. I can’t eat more than 5 trout between each trip. The limit should be dropped wya down. But La has a bunch of fatties so the limit goes up. Who even needed 25 trout.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23904 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Florida has it right


Florida has 1/20th of the fish we have
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 12:43 pm to
That’s because they’re better fishermen and caught them al
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86398 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 1:12 pm to
quote:

Florida has it right.
Louisiana should probably have more zones, assuming the stocks are different enough to justify.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23904 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

That’s because they’re better fishermen and caught them al


Duh. It's easy when you can see the fish.
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10085 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 3:17 pm to
The opening of the spillways duplicates the natural system that makes LA fishing what it is.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39450 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

Grand and T-Boys are blown out, trout catching will be off the chain for several years.


Grand Bayou weir?
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39450 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:35 pm to
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I can’t eat more than 5 trout between each trip. The limit should be dropped wya down.


At least for Big Lake. The guides are arse raping the lake.

Or...put a catch quota on guides in the Calcasieu estuary.

You don't HAVE to limit out every trip. Just like the little dickheads guiding teal hunts in Welsh. There is no reason to kill 800 birds in one weekend.
This post was edited on 9/21/20 at 6:41 pm
Posted by Beamstain
Houston
Member since Jun 2008
329 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 6:36 pm to
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quote: Grand and T-Boys are blown out, trout catching will be off the chain for several years.


This I want to hear more about. When those weirs are open the bait moves and the trout fishing is usually way better. I hadn’t heard they had a couple of the weirs damaged. If HR&G is booking Oct. 1 with customers that is great news for the lake.
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13482 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:03 pm to
That means flat fish all fall behind the weir?
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 7:11 pm to
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but more than the fresh water marshes that DU wants us to believe we need.

Lol! I don't know where people get this shite. DU deserves their fair share of shite talk, but some of the shite that gets said about them is crazy.

Maybe I misunderstood your point, but you did say "saltwater estuaries and marshes". Estuaries are brackish by nature. Maybe I'm getting too much into the semantics of it, but that's just the biologist in me...lol!
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6300 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:07 pm to
Yes, this weeks rain may push it back a bit but oct 1st is the shoot for date. Oct 31st wiers close until mar or apr can’t remember zactly. Wiers don’t have to be open for bait/fish to move through BUT when they blow out more bait comes through than normal. I have honestly only had one trip where my clients were concerned about limiting out and they were from st Martin’s VILLE. Two caught plenty and decided to drink beer but the 100% coonazz wanted a limit me. Texans as a whole never worry about killing a limit, hrg doesn’t cater to those who only come for a meat haul.
Posted by lion
Member since Aug 2016
816 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:17 pm to
quote:

Who even needed 25 trout.
People who are allowed to keep trout the size of cigar minnows.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5645 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 8:38 pm to
So here is a good question men: why doesn't the state open the Morganza structure which is much larger in terms of capacity than Bonnet Carre?
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
6300 posts
Posted on 9/21/20 at 9:09 pm to
Crawfish lobby:)
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13482 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 1:17 am to
quote:

So here is a good question men:

Meh
quote:

why doesn't the state open the Morganza structure which is much larger in terms of capacity than Bonnet Carre?



Well for starters, the state doesn’t open shite. Last opening expedited the siltation in that area, another opening will only exasperate the issue. Sorry you have to run more than a mile to catch trout in the summer.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 4:31 am to
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So here is a good question men: why doesn't the state open the Morganza structure which is much larger in terms of capacity than Bonnet Carre?

Well for starters, money.

It also has a much greater impact on the basin than the freshwater has on the fricking trout in SELA that can swim away. The deer and turkey in Sherburne still haven't recovered from the 2011 flood.
Posted by bearhc
Member since Sep 2009
5645 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 6:03 am to
Let me get this right Cowboy fan. It is OK to hurt fishing in SELA, but you do not want Morganza opened because it hurts the deer population in your neck of the woods. According to Wildlife and Fisheries deer numbers are down in La. so lets limit the deer harvest in La. Obviously, if deer numbers are down in Sherburne it should be closed to hunting.
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12950 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:11 am to
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Let me get this right Cowboy fan. It is OK to hurt fishing in SELA, but you do not want Morganza opened because it hurts the deer population in your neck of the woods.

Last I checked, fish can swim to saltier water. And salinity changes are relatively ephemeral. Leave it alone for a relatively short period of time, and the salinity will be fine.

But 9 years later and you can still see the impacts of flooding the Basin.

So, it's a matter of temporal effects. Your fish are going to come back to that water alot quicker than the deer population.
Posted by lotik
Member since Jul 2018
530 posts
Posted on 9/22/20 at 7:22 am to
At the end of the day, we are to blame for all of this. We being this state and the Army Corp of Engineers. There is just no turning back at this point. Now its just a matter of managing it all the best we can.
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