re: GOA v NFA Lawsuit Thread: GOA has submitted their lawsuit in the 5th District Court of TX

machine guns and destructive devices are still part of it. it wasn't touched for obvious reasons.

if we had asked, we wouldn't have gotten the stuff we did get.

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if you build an SBR, either from a recently purchased pistol or via individual parts, you fill out a "Form 1" with the ATF.

Photo of serialized part (typically the lower of an AR-15)
Passport Photo
Fingerprints
Background Check
Wait time
Special engraving (Your Name/Trust Name and City, State)

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Yeah, I’m not doing all that nonsense. I’ll leave it like it is

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Well, my perception is that now the door is open for Democrats to use the same method to hike the tax way up when they get back in power. In the long run, this will be a disaster.

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Between now and the next time Democrats get Congress and the White House, the courts have to gut the NFA. If not, Democrats get to essentially end the suppressor industry via reconciliation.

If the NFA were gutted with no registry, I'd bet there would be 30-50M NFA items in the next 5 yrs.

I'd say about 90% of the casual shooters I know won't go through the registration process. But 90% of those ppl would probably buy multiple cans if they could just buy it like a 4473. Most of them for their kids hunting rifles and their own.

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Well, my perception is that now the door is open for Democrats to use the same method to hike the tax way up when they get back in power. In the long run, this will be a disaster.

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Have you been living under a rock? Various states are already attempting to tax ammo and other items at high rates.

Anyone know the answer to this stupid question?

Will atf still recognize ar pistols and rifles? Can I just buy a short upper for my rifle lower?

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Have you been living under a rock? Various states are already attempting to tax ammo and other items at high rates.

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No, these are the things that make me know that Dems will use this to frick us in the future.

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No, these are the things that make me know that Dems will use this to frick us in the future.

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Again, regardless of the Repubs using this now, this was always and will always be on the table for Dems. Hell, Newsome in Cali is pushing for gun manufacturers to be liable for shootings. I will never understand the "one side used this method, now the other side will" like both teams didn't know this already existed.

So suppressors about to skyrocket in price? Or will every manufacturer just raise the price $200.

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you will still have to jump through all the registration hoops but no longer have to pay $200 for a tax stamp to buy a silencer

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That’s what I don’t get. The registration is not a registration of a firearm - that would be “illegal”. It’s a registration that you paid the $200 tax. They send you a receipt and that is the tax stamp. You won’t go to prison for an unregistered or homemade suppressor - you go to prison for 10 years for failing to pay the government $200.

The ATF has argued that a suppressor isn’t even a firearm. I’d like to think that when the law goes into effect, you’d be able to buy suppressors like you’d buy ammo, or a new pair of shoes or a loaf of bread.