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re: Give me your arguments for getting a 1911 .45 cal or a Glock 17 9mm

Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:07 pm to
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:07 pm to
That P250 looks pretty sweet. Trying to decide if I like the full size or compact. Then, do I like it more than a 220 Carry?
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:08 pm to
That is my conceal carry piece.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:11 pm to


I forgot my coat at home.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:11 pm to
quote:

But it would damn sure have more capacity than 7+1.
How about 11 + 1?

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89472 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:12 pm to
quote:

That P250 looks pretty sweet. Trying to decide if I like the full size or compact. Then, do I like it more than a 220 Carry?



You can get the kit they call "2Sum", which comes with a full size and subcompact (and remember, Sig "subcompact" is probably compact for everybody else) frame, and keep it in the configuration you want. The extra grip frames (say you get the 2Sum Full and Sub and decide you want the "medium" compact grip frame), it's like $50.

Posted by El Josey Wales
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:13 pm to
That would look funny but be more advantageous should I run across a band of ill intentioned young urban democrats.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:13 pm to
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:14 pm to
Oh hell yeah.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:15 pm to
quote:

democrats


Like they even vote...
Posted by El Josey Wales
Greater Geismar
Member since Nov 2007
22710 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:17 pm to
They do. Sometimes more than once.
Posted by Ice Cream Sammich
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2010
10110 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:29 pm to
quote:

more than once

Bingo.
Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66373 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:31 pm to
quote:

Slick slide, fat grip, terrible grip angle, ugly and no safety.

1911 - pistol perfection.


well put
Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11875 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

How about 11 + 1?


Maybe not 11+1 but I hate how people completely discredit the 10 round 1911 mags that have been out forever. Wilson Combat, Chip McCormick, and Checkmate (they make Kimber mags too) make great 10 round 1911 mags. I have 3 Checkmate 10 round mags that work in every 1911 I've tried them in, even a WW2 Remington Rand. Here is my S&W with a buddy's Springfield Operator and the WW2 Remington Rand.








This also isn't an argument of 1911 vs Glock. It could also be can argument of polymer vs metal, where the Sigs, Berettas, and CZs could fit in as well, although their triggers are different. To address the OP, it should be what feels best to you. You can get a gun with similar 1911 ergonomics with a bit more ruggedness without having to buy a Glock. Ergonomics and reliability are not mutually exclusive, not matter what you've been told.


The S&W M&P is my favorite polymer platform out there, with the Ruger SR series at a close second. The M&P fits my hand like a glove and has the grip, grip angle, low bore axis, and sights that mirror 1911 styling. The Ruger SR9c is my carry piece and I trust my life to it daily. It is also a great buy. Both platforms can be purchased in full size or compact form and can be had in the 3 most popular defensive pistol calibers, 9mm, 40S&W and 45ACP. M&P is the first pic, Ruger SR9 is the second. (I'll also agree that the M&P is better looking. )





The best American made entry level 1911s out there are made by Ruger, Springfield (the USGI ones), Thompson (pretty new) and Remington. The slightly higher ups are Kimber, S&W, Springfield, Colt, etc. First pic is a Ruger SR1911, second is a Remington R1 Enchanced. Either can be had from $650-$850 depending on features and where you buy it. I know for a fact there is a threaded R1 Enhanced at Academy right now for about $1k.



This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Tom288
Jacksonville
Member since Apr 2009
20977 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

I didn't name my perfect pistol.



Obviously. That's why I asked what your perfect pistol is, genius.
Posted by Choirboy
On your property
Member since Aug 2010
10777 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:38 pm to
quote:

Tom288


I think he is avoiding the question
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:45 pm to
Not reading this whole thread, but

quote:

I like the .45 cal for home protection purposes.


looks like you answered your own question.
Posted by Thatguy...
cajun country
Member since Nov 2012
222 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 4:59 pm to
yea, I guess you're right
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4584 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 5:03 pm to
Get a HK45, HK45c or USP 45 and have the best of both worlds. Highly reliable gun with decent capacity that can spent hours at the range.

Edit:
Not sure your budget but I saw $500 and $700 thrown about. You probably can't get a HK45 for that unless you get really lucky but I bought a 100 rd basically brand new USP 45 for $750 that I get tomorrow. An older model would be in your range if you look.
This post was edited on 1/29/13 at 5:07 pm
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
6810 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 5:13 pm to
AG,
Try first to simplify your purchase by deciding WHAT you like (or maybe, what you DON'T like), then look for the model(s) that fit your criteria.
Reliability record.
Action: DAO, SAO, DA/SA, Striker fired?
Frame: Steel, polymer, aluminum alloy?
External safety levers: Yes or no? grip safety?
Mag capacity?
Accessory rail: yes or no?

I'll admit that I really like the 1911 and the 45 ACP (I have two that I use in my concealed carry rotation), but if I was going to have only one handgun to home defense and range use, it might NOT be the 1911. If you'd rather spend close to $500, you'd prolly be better served w/ a 9mm gun that's not a 1911, especially for your first handgun. In this price range there are a number of fine guns available, including:
Ruger SR series
S&W M&P series
Glock
Sig (I can't keep track of all their different models......)
Springfield Armory XD series

For your use, get a full size frame gun, not a compact. Since you're not going to carry it, I'd suggest a double stack configuration, as long as you find one that fits your hand. And remember, a nice revolver in 38 Spec/357 Mag is NEVER a bad choice for home defense. Of course, don't forget that a shotgun is prolly the single best home defense gun.

You can always get a 1911 later on after your basic needs have been addressed.

Posted by Geauxtiga
No man's land
Member since Jan 2008
34377 posts
Posted on 1/29/13 at 5:53 pm to
quote:

Glocks are ergoniomically terrible IMO.
If/when that gawd awful day comes, that won't matter.


quote:

However, they are very reliable.
This will.

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