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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:35 pm to Specklebelly
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:35 pm to Specklebelly
I am well aware of all that. But they’re planting it/not harvesting it specifically for crawfish. We do this as well, as a normal agricultural practice. Leaving 10-25 barrel rice in the field purely for duck hunting is a huge economic loss.
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Posted on 11/4/18 at 11:10 pm to jimbeam
Yeah I didn’t read your post thoroughly when use said harvested or crawfished. But where do you draw the line at flooding crops for hunting? Seems like they are strictly against flooding corn but if you push to take that away then where does it stop? I want the good ole days of leaving about 5 acres of uncut rice around every duck blind then passing a buffalo over it lol.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 6:03 am to jimbeam
flooded soybeans after harvest common as well in north louisiana and arkie
all for ducks
you may think its cost prohibitive but a lot of blinds are going for 10k and all the farmer has to do is provide water
the blinds in some areas are packed in like sardines 10k a pop
all for ducks
you may think its cost prohibitive but a lot of blinds are going for 10k and all the farmer has to do is provide water
the blinds in some areas are packed in like sardines 10k a pop
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:09 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:
Houdini
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:19 am to Howard Juneau
a lot of our habitat has been degraded umin areas that used to hold ducks
the lakes in NW LA were awesome at times, then a duck coukdbt find s place to sit because of giant salvinia
maurepas and much of SE LA used to hold a bunch of ducks, the it got choked out with salvinia and water hyacinth a duck cant find a place to sit much less anything to eat
in NE LA, the rice fields have hardly ANY feed in them the farmers have begun to plow the field to dust right after harvest they flood them to make some money off duck hunters then they drain the fields the day after duck season ends and get ready for planting
dont forget about the artificially flooded timber in wmas that has started to turn into locust thickets and overcups because flooding every year is not natural
you get ducks ("super hens") to come down and they turn right back around a couple generations of ducks do that and in a couple years the juveniles dont imprint on the area and find new areas regardless of what your area look like today
it's a perfect storm
the lakes in NW LA were awesome at times, then a duck coukdbt find s place to sit because of giant salvinia
maurepas and much of SE LA used to hold a bunch of ducks, the it got choked out with salvinia and water hyacinth a duck cant find a place to sit much less anything to eat
in NE LA, the rice fields have hardly ANY feed in them the farmers have begun to plow the field to dust right after harvest they flood them to make some money off duck hunters then they drain the fields the day after duck season ends and get ready for planting
dont forget about the artificially flooded timber in wmas that has started to turn into locust thickets and overcups because flooding every year is not natural
you get ducks ("super hens") to come down and they turn right back around a couple generations of ducks do that and in a couple years the juveniles dont imprint on the area and find new areas regardless of what your area look like today
it's a perfect storm
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:22 am to Ron Cheramie
all this said, lousiana is still a fine place to duck hunt
one thing I hate more than anything is when the younger generation is fired up talking about how many ducks they saw when scouting or how good a hunt they had and then some old bastard comments "that ain't nothing" or "it ain't like the good ol days"
the good ol days are right now for the younger generations
one thing I hate more than anything is when the younger generation is fired up talking about how many ducks they saw when scouting or how good a hunt they had and then some old bastard comments "that ain't nothing" or "it ain't like the good ol days"
the good ol days are right now for the younger generations
Posted on 11/5/18 at 7:30 am to Ron Cheramie
and crawfish fields are not that great of habitat a little too deep for most puddle ducks
and boats running through them every day and cannons being fired around them doesnt help either
and boats running through them every day and cannons being fired around them doesnt help either
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:23 am to Ron Cheramie
Yea I think most agree that crawfished (rice) ponds are awful habitat for ducks, you hardly every see ducks in them....too deep.
If its fallow and particularly grassy it can have some value but overall the birds just dont have much use for it......and our crawfish demand continues to rise, no?
If its fallow and particularly grassy it can have some value but overall the birds just dont have much use for it......and our crawfish demand continues to rise, no?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:44 am to Tigah D
All we ever see is scaup and spoons in our crawfish ponds
Posted on 11/5/18 at 8:52 am to Tigah D
whether or not the change in rice acreage is significant or not, what is significant is the usage of that rice field
if you are crawfishing it, its providing very little value for a duck vs harvested rice fields with shallow water
may as well be planted in sugarcane
if you are crawfishing it, its providing very little value for a duck vs harvested rice fields with shallow water
may as well be planted in sugarcane
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:33 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:
flooded soybeans after harvest common as well in north louisiana and arkie
all for ducks
yea but the field is harvested.
There is very little rice that is harvested and then not 2nd cropped or crawfished in South LA. And in North LA they are cutting the rice then they do some type of tillage if dry or buffalo it
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:40 am to Midtiger farm
quote:
but the field is harvested
correct I was responding to the comment if someone asking if it was common to flood rice stubble
only purpose is to attract ducks nothing else
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:03 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:#baiting
it was common to flood rice stubble only purpose is to attract ducks nothing else
Posted on 11/6/18 at 4:42 am to White Bear
I'd love to hear the peanut gallery's opinion on the current situation with soybeans. I've heard of guys being told their fields are considered baited after the farmer plowed his soybeans under for crop insurance purposes.
I wonder if the FFL would call that baited or not. What if the guy just left the crop standing and they flooded it? Lol!
I wonder if the FFL would call that baited or not. What if the guy just left the crop standing and they flooded it? Lol!
This post was edited on 11/6/18 at 4:43 am
Posted on 11/6/18 at 8:49 am to Cowboyfan89
quote:
I'd love to hear the peanut gallery's opinion on the current situation with soybeans. I've heard of guys being told their fields are considered baited after the farmer plowed his soybeans under for crop insurance purposes.
I would like to see FFL's interpretation as well.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:08 am to White Bear
quote:this happened in LA a few years ago.. with rice too.... fields were unhuntable....
tion of Louisiana?
quote:
I'd love to hear the peanut gallery's opinion on the current situation with soybeans. I've heard of guys being told their fields are considered baited after the farmer plowed his soybeans under for crop insurance purposes.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:10 am to choupiquesushi
Gonna be a lot of bufflaoed/standing/plowed beans this year. Wet fall did a number on the guys around us.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 9:20 am to jimbeam
quote:Yes, and I would imagine it's the same up Arkie way. Was through I-40 a month or so ago and there were thousands of acres of beans ready to cut alongside the big road. I'd guess they've had similar weather as we've had here.
Gonna be a lot of bufflaoed/standing/plowed beans this year. Wet fall did a number on the guys around us.
Posted on 11/6/18 at 1:01 pm to choupiquesushi
quote:
this happened in LA a few years ago.. with rice too.... fields were unhuntable....
Yeah, true. Sucks...
Posted on 11/6/18 at 7:08 pm to Cowboyfan89
These baws are picking up some steam ...........
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