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re: Flyway Federation of Louisiana?
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:58 pm to 34venture
Posted on 11/1/18 at 12:58 pm to 34venture
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I just went to check on the local idiot and it seems the page has vanished? Or am I not searching correctly
Still there. Must have somehow blocked you from seeing the page.
That guy is trying to use USDA wetland delineation methods to argue that flooding is manipulation.
I know those regs pretty well, and flooding is not specified as a manipulation in them. He even screenshots the regs that supposed call flooding a manipulation.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:19 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Still there. Must have somehow blocked you from seeing the page.
I couldn't even post and he blocks me, what a bleeding vagina.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 1:33 pm to 34venture
Damn. I'm straight up blocked as well. I guess he didnt like me saying his banning tactics remind me some leftists
Posted on 11/1/18 at 3:33 pm to Cowboyfan89
I almost commented on the wetlands post but it was so far in left field I didn’t even try. No where does it talk about flooding being manipulation and the only place it talks about crops is talking about not being able to recieve funding for wetland programs.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 6:33 pm to headedwest21
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I almost commented on the wetlands post but it was so far in left field I didn’t even try. No where does it talk about flooding being manipulation and the only place it talks about crops is talking about not being able to recieve funding for wetland programs.
EXACTLY!! But they are so blinded by their hatred of flooding that they can't even see that. The manipulation that that policy is talking about is draining and/or clearing a wetland to make possible the production of a commodity crop.
These are people that have zero ecological knowledge or background, and people that THINK they are lawyers, interpreting regulation that they know nothing about.
Then again, that's par for the course with these guys and to be expected considering the wbole reason they are together is because of a misinterpretation of regulatory terminology.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:00 pm to Cowboyfan89
Seen a few gadwells this week- Dr. Goins doing work son.
Posted on 11/1/18 at 7:05 pm to White Bear
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gadwells
As long as they aren't gadpoors, I guess he's making something happen...
Posted on 11/3/18 at 9:47 pm to Cowboyfan89
My brother posted a video of thousands of ducks in some rice fields and got banned lol
Posted on 11/3/18 at 10:31 pm to celltech1981
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My brother posted a video of thousands of ducks in some rice fields and got banned lol
Theh are trashing anyone that says there are birds down here. Saying they are young and don't know any better.
Hmmm, maybe the habitat where ya'll hunt just sucks. Bet they never thought of that.
This post was edited on 11/3/18 at 10:32 pm
Posted on 11/3/18 at 10:51 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Saying they are young and don't know any better.
Apparently the only reason that thousands of ducks aren't in wax lake (like in the 90s) is flooded corn
Posted on 11/3/18 at 11:04 pm to celltech1981
quote:well if its first yr rice its baiting.
My brother posted a video of thousands of ducks in some rice fields and got banned lol
Posted on 11/4/18 at 4:16 am to White Bear
A friend has been halfway following the Goins disciples a little while now....and then last two days been sending me vids of piles of ducks around his property.
Myth....busted......
Get out and hunt guys!
Myth....busted......
Get out and hunt guys!
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:07 am to Tigah D
Followed this for a while before commenting. I feel guys in this post miss the point. No one has said we don’t get good numbers of ducks from time to time on the Federal Flyway page. I’m fairly certain the chief issue is we don’t get the numbers and concentrations we once did on the same time table we once did due to crop manipulation up north. I also believe everyone that posted here has to also believe that with some degree of truth even if you don’t agree with every definition the federal flyway guys have of “crop manipulation”. Goins seems to be on to a very important issue that’s been over looked. Yes some of his calls are a long shot at driving the point of manipulation home. But it’s causing post like this one. And conversation about it across the country. Every initialed agency has there own blind eye and definition of what’s manipulation and what’s not. I do believe he has exposed that and it has generated interest. My particular lease has been in the family for over 60 years. Our documented kill books have been reviewed by the likes of DU, DW, USDI, we have seen dwindling numbers for 3 decades with almost no loss in crop acreage and great surrounding fresh water marsh. We have seen the dates of duck numbers shift drastically over the 60 years. Later and later. Weather has had almost zero effect on in the push of ducks when 50 and 60 years ago it was obvious weather patterns made huge differences in duck numbers and kills. I will stand stead fast in the truth that midwestern corn field flooding and other practices have shifted the natural progression of weather related migration patterns. That food souce was not accessible before the 1990’s in the capacity it is today. I’ve been there, payed and taken hints from North Dakota to Oklahoma and all states between. I’ve seen that landscape change so much since the 70’s. It’s a dream wintering area for ducks and guess now. Bountiful food and really no ice to speak of until late December. Why leave? After a few generations of this ducks are no longer imprinted to even attempt to fly any further south than this. And that is where we are today. We have lost several generations of ducks being imprinted enough to fly further than absolutely necessary to winter. Guys quit fighting amongst each other. Figure away to set the small differences aside for the bigger picture and get help some legislation moving in a positive direction to get our flyway back. Whether it’s with the flyway guys, DW or any other conservation group. Just stop posts like this bashing the very guys you need to help
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:45 am to Houdini
Oh boy.
You’re joking, right?
quote:
Just stop posts like this bashing the very guys you need to help
You’re joking, right?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:01 pm to Houdini
The problem is that instead of having an open discussion about the many issues through out the flyway, he bans everyone and anyone that says anything that questions his argument on his page. He should welcome people that are for and against his agenda and maybe more people will give him respect and actually listen to his points and give him a chance to get his message out across a national platform.
Instead he makes more “enemies” and makes himself and his followers look ignorant when it comes to environmental and hunting laws. Plus they constantly put the hunting clubs up north on blast and are basically advertising for them. I don’t disagree with everything the FFL stands for but what these guys are doing with flooded crops are perfectly legal and if I had the luxury of flooded corn or millet then I surely would take advantage of it.
He needs to be careful what he asks for because how can you ban hunting flooded corn and not ban hunting over rice stubble. Whether it’s normal farming practices or not. Cause having rice stubble flooded in the winter time is not technically normal unless it’s being crawfished.
Instead he makes more “enemies” and makes himself and his followers look ignorant when it comes to environmental and hunting laws. Plus they constantly put the hunting clubs up north on blast and are basically advertising for them. I don’t disagree with everything the FFL stands for but what these guys are doing with flooded crops are perfectly legal and if I had the luxury of flooded corn or millet then I surely would take advantage of it.
He needs to be careful what he asks for because how can you ban hunting flooded corn and not ban hunting over rice stubble. Whether it’s normal farming practices or not. Cause having rice stubble flooded in the winter time is not technically normal unless it’s being crawfished.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 12:21 pm to Houdini
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I will stand stead fast in the truth that midwestern corn field flooding and other practices have shifted the natural progression of weather related migration patterns
This is where my issue comes in, because this isn't going to stop at flooding. What's next, no-till farming? Cover crops? Moist-soil management?
Posted on 11/4/18 at 6:44 pm to Houdini
Dude, there are multiple reasons why the migration has changed and i think Lreynolds has a good theory as to why. Goins' pet issue is but one of several imo. Good luck and yes i will keep laughing at your boys.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 6:50 pm to Specklebelly
quote:For those that keep mentioning this, how often do you see this? Seriously. Our operation nor any of those of people I know personally leave a second crop standing. It either gets harvested or crawfished.
Cause having rice stubble flooded in the winter time is not technically normal unless it’s being crawfished.
Posted on 11/4/18 at 7:48 pm to jimbeam
common in north Louisiana
no crawfishing just flood it for ducks
that's if they dont plow it to dust after harvesting and then flood it
that's becoming more common and probably one good reason some areas dont hold ducks like they used to
no crawfishing just flood it for ducks
that's if they dont plow it to dust after harvesting and then flood it
that's becoming more common and probably one good reason some areas dont hold ducks like they used to
Posted on 11/4/18 at 10:30 pm to jimbeam
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For those that keep mentioning this, how often do you see this?
It’s been a few years but I’ve known farmers to plant conventional non-hybrid rice varieties in crawfish ponds and didn’t harvest second crop. Most farmers are planting hybrids now in my area to take advantage of the better yields on second crop but will also fertilize the harvested stubble to keep it alive longer for crawfish. Sometimes it heads out almost as a third crop depending on weather.
Also some people plant green rice just for crawfish and don’t harvest any of it.
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