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Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:04 pm to Pepperidge
You're usually not this dumb.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 10:37 pm to brass2mouth
Landowners are perfectly fine with the government making sure their property doesn’t end up underwater.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:08 pm to AlxTgr
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You're usually not this dumb.
You usually figure things out much faster without them being spelled out for you
Posted on 5/3/19 at 7:33 am to AlxTgr
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BTW, The open water aspect of this is totally different to me than canals, and I think the State should treat that situation differently.
I really don't understand how open water with no land around can belong to anyone but the state and it appears you kind of agree. The problem is these two issues are tied at the hip. If it is deeded to someone and it use to be land they purchased but now it is water...
Does the Corp of Engineers still allow most land owners to dig canals if they want? I know permits are required but are they easily obtained or very hard to get approved?
Would it drastically decrease erosion if most of these canals were dammed off? In my laymen's mind it would.
I see several types of canals that need to be considered:
1. Main corridor canals (public).
2. Dead end canals (private)
3. Smaller canals that are used for travel (gray area)
This is just my opinion but seems to me to be a reasonable start...
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:03 am to Drunken_tiger
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Drunken_tiger
I’m not sure what was so funny. But what I said is 100% accurate. Just because you can float your boat in a body of water, doesn’t make it public.
I know alot of you broke dicks want it that way so you can fish others people’s property for free. But just because paw paw fished somewhere back in the day don’t make it legal.
Unless the LA Supreme Court takes up the catahoula lake case and says that the “state” or the “public” can aquisitively prescribe property. Would definitely make for some interesting lawsuits.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:50 am to Mr Wonderful
So what? Just because you can “access” part of a river (or even the whole river) doesn’t make it public.
This is what’s so funny. I would love for you to provide any example of a river being private. By the definition of the law as it is written pretty much every single river in this state is a navigable waterway. They existed in 1812 (which is the key part of all of this) and a most rivers meet the literal deffiniton of a navigable waterway.
A river is a terrible argument in this subject matter.
This is what’s so funny. I would love for you to provide any example of a river being private. By the definition of the law as it is written pretty much every single river in this state is a navigable waterway. They existed in 1812 (which is the key part of all of this) and a most rivers meet the literal deffiniton of a navigable waterway.
A river is a terrible argument in this subject matter.
This post was edited on 5/3/19 at 9:52 am
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:13 am to Drunken_tiger
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By the definition of the law as it is written pretty much every single river in this state is a navigable waterway. They existed in 1812 (which is the key part of all of this) and a most rivers meet the literal deffiniton of a navigable waterway.
Sure, if we're talking about a "river" in the literal sense. Call it a river, stream, bayou, etc. Doesn't matter. Don't get hung up on the term "river."
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I would love for you to provide any example of a river being private.
Here. Look for yourself. I don't have time to find every non-navigable river/stream for you. There are too many to count.
State Land Office Map
Posted on 5/3/19 at 11:32 am to Mr Wonderful
You said river not me. If you can’t see the irony of your self saying “if a Whole river can be accessed “ it’s still not public I don’t know what to tell ya. lol
I have looked at the map many times in fact. You will find very few natural rivers and bayous that are not navigable. There are a few examples in the marsh area, but there isn’t many. The state claimed most natural waterways of any significance in 1812.
I have looked at the map many times in fact. You will find very few natural rivers and bayous that are not navigable. There are a few examples in the marsh area, but there isn’t many. The state claimed most natural waterways of any significance in 1812.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:31 pm to Drunken_tiger
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If you can’t see the irony of your self saying “if a Whole river can be accessed “ it’s still not public I don’t know what to tell ya. lol
Not sure if it’s irony, but it is fact.
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You will find very few natural rivers and bayous that are not navigable.
So you admit there are some. Great, now we’re getting somewhere.
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The state claimed most natural waterways of any significance in 1812.
I never disputed that. But there are countless bayous, stream, rivers (all the same for legal purposes) throughout the state that can be “accessed” by boat but are in fact private. That’s all I was saying.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 12:54 pm to Mr Wonderful
I would say for all intensive purposes if you can access a natural bayou or river it is navigable. There are very few exceptions to this.
Also there is a difference between a bayou and a river. A bayou would be more like a creek.
Also there is a difference between a bayou and a river. A bayou would be more like a creek.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:11 pm to Drunken_tiger
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I would say for all intensive purposes if you can access a natural bayou or river it is navigable.
It's intents and purposes. That is not the legal definition of navigable.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 1:25 pm to Motorboat
Y’all can straw man all you want. Rivers and Bayous are accessible waterways. The premise of the majority of the arguments in this thread are about man made canals. Which for all intensive purposes are considered land. When you start talking about natural waterways and bays and such it’s not a cut and dry issue. I know a good lawyer or two I’ll take my chances any day of the week in a river or bayou. I feel good about it !
I don’t know of any cases where anybody has had any issues in a river or bayou.
I don’t know of any cases where anybody has had any issues in a river or bayou.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:05 pm to Drunken_tiger
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Y’all can straw man all you want.
Huh?
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Rivers and Bayous are accessible waterways.
Accessible does not mean navigable.
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Which for all intensive purposes are considered land.
Intents and purposes
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I know a good lawyer or two I’ll take my chances any day of the week in a river or bayou. I feel good about it !
Go on and trespass. It's what all you baws are doing anyway.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:10 pm to Drunken_tiger
quote:You're acting like it's a grey area in the law when it's not.
I know a good lawyer or two I’ll take my chances any day of the week in a river or bayou. I feel good about it !
Even your good lawyers will say "while it may not seem right, you are clearly breaking the law"
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:24 pm to mylsuhat
Your right there is no gray area. I’m talking bayous and rivers. Theres no reason I would even have a problem.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:39 pm to Drunken_tiger
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I’m talking bayous and rivers. Theres no reason I would even have a problem.
You do what you want man. We’re just telling you the law. Just because a bayou or river is natural and accessible doesn’t mean it’s navigable (public).
There’s a bayou on my dad’s land that’s named on a map and connects to a navigable (public) lake. That named bayou is 100% private even though I can travel it in a jon boat with an outboard. I really don’t care if you want to fish it. But if my ole man catches you in there, you might get shot lol.
There’s a named bayou behind my house that is about the same size as the bayou I’m mentioning above and it happens to be claimed by the state. The point is you can’t tell just by looking at a water body. You must use the maps the state uses (i.e., navigable in 1812).
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:44 pm to Mr Wonderful
I completely understand where I can and can’t go by law. I never had an issue. The original post I replied to was a play on words with river and access.
You mofo’s are too serious.
You mofo’s are too serious.
Posted on 5/3/19 at 2:55 pm to Mr Wonderful
You stating he would be breaking the law and then immediately follow it up with this:
Your ole man would really shoot someone for fishing where he shouldn’t be? Jeez.
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But if my ole man catches you in there, you might get shot lol.
Your ole man would really shoot someone for fishing where he shouldn’t be? Jeez.
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