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First honey pull tomorrow - Today update

Posted on 7/10/20 at 7:39 pm
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 7:39 pm
Making my first ever honey pull tomorrow. Put nuc in in March, honey super is completely full, actually put a second on 2 weeks ago its half full.

Any tips?

ETA - Pulled 7 full frames out. Sumbitches are heavy. removed the 3rd box completely consolidated it into the box I left 3 frames in, so hive is now back to 2 boxes. Have the frames in 2 5 gallon food-grade buckets with a towel over them in garage for now. Plan on spinning and bottling this evening when daughter is home to help.

Beautiful gold color, smells great, tastes great.

Only 1 sting through my glove!
This post was edited on 7/11/20 at 9:40 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 7:41 pm to
I don’t understand anything about it, But find it interesting.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 7:44 pm to
I’m not even sure what language that is, but I love honey
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:01 pm to
Well, teachable moment then. I'm no expert, but:

You've seen beehives, usually white wooden boxes. Normally there are 2 or 3 boxes stacked up. Bees enter from the bottom. The boxes each have 10 removable rectangular frames hanging in them. Bees build honeycomb on those frames. Queen generally lays eggs in the comb in the bottom box (brood box) and the workers raise the babies there. The workers generally make and store honey in the top box. When the all the frames in the top box are full of honey, you take some out, replace with new frames and pull the honey from the frames you took. That's the honey you eat.

Nuc - is short for "nucleus". It's basically a small bee colony you buy or take from another hive. Each box has 10 frames in it, a "nuc" is 5 frames which have honey, pollen, eggs, about 10,000 bees, and a Queen. You put that nuc into a hive box, add 5 more new frames to get to 10, and hope the population keeps growing and they start building comb and making honey.

Super - the box that goes on top of the bottom brood box. This is where the bees make and store honey.

Pull - you spin the frames in a device and centrifugal (sp?) force pulls the honey out of the comb, flings it against the inside of the container, it drains to the bottom.

Sorry for the length (ha! never said that before).
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:24 pm to
I've been watching Mr. Ed's videos on YouTube from Jeff Horchoff Bees over the last week. I'm basically an expert now. My tip is "don't get stung".

They're oddly entertaining videos and that guy just seems like a pleasant man to be around.
This post was edited on 7/10/20 at 8:26 pm
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
18387 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:32 pm to
I helped a few weeks ago on getting honey. Was interesting. Even took a weekend trip to marshal Texas to pick up a big spinning machine. Learned a lot that weekend about bees and honey. Was pretty neat
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:49 pm to
Tip 1 Get all the bees off before bringing in the house

Tip 2. Prepare for much more time to clean and jar 1.5 supers of honey

Tip 3. Just take 1 super right now. Leave some for the hive for the fall. Probably that half full super. 1 super is a bunch of honey

Tip 4. Get a bucket valve and strainer. Use a hair dryer to get the honey moving if it cools down in the house and starts slowly straining

Tip 5. Leave the leftover comb on a pan outside for the bees to harvest the honey. They will clean it and u have clean wax

Tip 6. Have fun enjoying the harvest. Teach others. Show friends
Posted by JRinNOLA
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Feb 2020
76 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 8:57 pm to
Awesome. I am adding a second deep brude box tomorrow. I bought my nuc 2 weeks ago.
Posted by jimjackandjose
Member since Jun 2011
6498 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:06 pm to
Im.surprised you can find a nuc right now. I want to buy a couple more
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
28016 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 9:14 pm to
In North Alabama, the early harvest is called Tupelo Honey, because it comes mostly from The Tupelo Tree Blooms, but some call it wildflower honey. Then the second harvest is called Cotton Honey, because it comes from cotton blooms. That was told to me by a friend who runs a large operation.
Do they call it the same thing in your part of the country?
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 7/10/20 at 10:58 pm to
We just pulled all our wildflower honey this week and spun it today. Over here in Georgia it was a lean year. The gallberry and privet didn't produce hardly anything. Our wildflower year is over for us (time to feed them). We'll be moving 40-50 hives over to cotton now but it's easy to lose them due to farmers spraying and the honey granulates too fast for most people to want it. We make creamed honey with our cotton honey.

Tips: Look for a cheap 2 frame hand extractor. Go through your super and pull everything that is capped and doesn't have brood (if you don't use a queen excluder). Shake the bees off each stick and put it in another empty super box and put a lid on it each time to keep them from robbing and getting trapped. If you aren't going to spin it right away, you will need to bag it up to keep the pests off it. You could also stick it in the freezer to keep the wax moths and beetles off it. If you don't they will ruin your honey in a few days and that's not fun. Make sure if they aren't bringing in nectar (look for sloshing frames) that you give them some sugar water or whatever you want to feed them with (we use corn syrup). Use lots of smoke.

Good luck. We run around 120 hives as a side hobby/business. If you need some help feel free to let me know.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 7/10/20 at 11:07 pm to
All I can I add is take some pics. This sounds fascinating
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 7:16 am to
Today would be a great day for harvest. This was my 2nd full year. Didn’t get honey last year, but harvested 180lbs over the past couple weeks. I use honey bandit with a fume board (makes things much easier. I highly recommend the Maxant wax cap planer. Congrats on a first year harvest! Now go kill those mites and get ready for the Fall flow.









Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3133 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 7:22 am to
Here’s the planer in action. I was going to buy and uncapping tank, but this bucket does the trick for now. Has a paint strainer that I hang over other bucket over night.

Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
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Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:41 am to
looks great, thanks!
Posted by Pockets
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
428 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 9:56 am to
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You guys should check out these hives. No more spinning. My neighbor has them.
Posted by TheCurmudgeon
Not where I want to be
Member since Aug 2014
1481 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 3:28 pm to
Update - used filet knife, decapped them over a bucket. Used a 2 frame extractor, spun them out, put them on rack in yard for bees to clean up. Drained extractor through cheesecloth into bucket, drained de-capping bucket through cheesecloth into bucket. Put cap residue on table in yard for bees to clean up. Took 1:45 start through clean up.

Ended up with 3 1/2 gallons of honey from 7 frames. Will bottle tonight.

I shoulda started this years ago.
Posted by LSUintheNW
At your mom’s house
Member since Aug 2009
35751 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 3:32 pm to
Did you start a bidness or is this all personal?
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 4:16 pm to
And how much does it cost to get started?
Posted by drdoct
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2015
1609 posts
Posted on 7/11/20 at 6:21 pm to
quote:

I use honey bandit with a fume board


YES! This also sorry I didn't put that. For the first few years we didn't use any fume and it was always pandemonium with the bees. We would smoke them down as best as possible and then blow them out. Didn't think we wanted to mess with it. However once we started using the fume boards, it goes much better and faster. We now use 3 and it lets us keep going pretty good with minimal stoppage for waiting on the bees.

For cost... it varies. I usually sell 1 or 2 full hives to friends and it's the friend rate of $200. But couldn't do that all year or for not friends or I wouldn't have any bees or equipment left. That would also include a super of 9 drawn comb to get them going. Don't expect to find that, but if you find a semi professional keeper who has a few hundred hives and go talk to them and get knowledge and help out a bit... they could get you started.
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