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Ducks Unlimited
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:57 am
Posted on 10/19/17 at 9:57 am
Do you support ducks unlimited. I hear a lot of people talk bad about them.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:07 am to chinquapin
Eh, "support" is a loose term for what I do. When they give away good shite with a membership, I will get one. I'll read the magazine when I get it.
But do I support them the way I do NWTF? No. I've been on multiple Chapter Committees with NWTF.
Do I hate DU like some people do? No. Why? Because I have common sense and don't believe DU has these giant nets or heated ponds all over the place up north just trying to keep birds away from us.
Changes in agricultural practices up north, largely driven by Ag extensions and USDA programs, have had a far greater impact on migration patterns than DU. Mild winters and an abundance of available food up north have a far greater impact on ducks than DU.
But do I support them the way I do NWTF? No. I've been on multiple Chapter Committees with NWTF.
Do I hate DU like some people do? No. Why? Because I have common sense and don't believe DU has these giant nets or heated ponds all over the place up north just trying to keep birds away from us.
Changes in agricultural practices up north, largely driven by Ag extensions and USDA programs, have had a far greater impact on migration patterns than DU. Mild winters and an abundance of available food up north have a far greater impact on ducks than DU.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:09 am to chinquapin
Team Delta Waterfowl FL.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:15 am to chinquapin
quote:
Do you support ducks unlimited.
I do, because at the end of the day, they do solid work on the breeding grounds, to an extent do really well on project down here on the wintering grounds, and still stand behind hunters. They deserve our support as duck hunters since their ultimate goal is to put more ducks in the air every year.
However, my biggest complaint with them is they will help Joe Blow Landowner down here with his wetland project. They will help design, flood, and manage his property so he can have habitat, and yes, hunt on it. That work is done with funds coming from my donations. So, do I get to hunt on it as a DU member? Frick no. I know that more habitat means more places for birds to be at and we all need more habitat, but that kinda rubs me the wrong way.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:15 am to AlxTgr
Yes I do any help for the ducks is good. I support DU and DW help them all we can.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:29 am to chinquapin
YES. And I have a good time at the banquets.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:37 am to MWP
quote:
They will help design, flood, and manage his property so he can have habitat, and yes, hunt on it. That work is done with funds coming from my donations. So, do I get to hunt on it as a DU member? Frick no. I know that more habitat means more places for birds to be at and we all need more habitat, but that kinda rubs me the wrong way.
Do you apply this same logic to every government program as well?
If it weren't for DU projects on private land and government cost-share dollars spent on private lands, our natural resources would be severely degraded and the only decent lands would be largely confined to public land.
Sure, you have your landowners that don't use government/nonprofit assistance, but those are few and far between.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:41 am to chinquapin
Yup and DW. They both bitch about each other because they are fighting over the same dollar. I support DU for their politics. I support DW for their hands and feet on the ground.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:44 am to chinquapin
Yep and serve on the board here locally. I have heard some crazy stories also. No man with any common sense can believe most of that crap.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:48 am to chinquapin
I support them. Just like the NRA, you may not agree with everything they do, but the biggest groups have the most political pull and DU can get stuff done.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 10:50 am to MWP
quote:Joe spends plenty of his money on these projects. A shitload more than your $25/yr
However, my biggest complaint with them is they will help Joe Blow Landowner down here with his wetland project.
quote:Uhhh, no, see above. Most of your and my money go to public, non hunt-able land.
That work is done with funds coming from my donations.
quote:Correct, its private land. Also, these impoundment's bring in more birds for surrounding land owners.
So, do I get to hunt on it as a DU member? Frick no.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 11:37 am to Vlad
Yes
DU spends a lot of money on public lands too. Their political pull gets that $35 membership and $100 raffle ticket pack, leveraged 5-6x by state and Fed agencies too.
DU spends a lot of money on public lands too. Their political pull gets that $35 membership and $100 raffle ticket pack, leveraged 5-6x by state and Fed agencies too.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 12:21 pm to ISmellMischief
But not like I used to.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 3:57 pm to chinquapin
Used to. Won the duck calling the contest several times as a kid at banquets. Haven’t participated in a long time. I think I’m about to look into DW. Local banquet next week near my town.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:08 pm to Potchafa
I try to support both DU and Delta, both do good work in different ways, though from a financial standpoint, DU tends to have more capabilities to match grant funds, etc. If they care about ducks, I figure I may as well support the cause.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:19 pm to MWP
quote:Almost all of the ducks I have ever seen have wings.
my biggest complaint with them is they will help Joe Blow Landowner down here with his wetland project. They will help design, flood, and manage his property so he can have habitat, and yes, hunt on it. That work is done with funds coming from my donations. So, do I get to hunt on it as a DU member? Frick no. I know that more habitat means more places for birds to be at and we all need more habitat, but that kinda rubs me the wrong way.
Without the projects to help landowners, the wetlands are dry lands.
Most if not all of those landowners are huge contributors as well.
DU was instrumental in helping us with a water control project on a piece of family land. It has brought ducks back to a piece of property that has helped us, but also all the neighbors have commented on better puddle duck hunting now that we keep our water right.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:20 pm to Texas Gentleman
quote:I like DU, you see there projects all over the place. I dont see much DW influence down here. Seems to be more of a DU knockoff.
Just like the NRA, you may not agree with everything they do, but the biggest groups have the most political pull and DU can get stuff done.
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:37 pm to tigerfoot
DU and DW are totally different and they are not competitors. DW is more of the research side of waterfowl DU is much larger
The "delta" in delta waterfowl has nothing to do with the southern delta. DW has been around before DU. They were relatively unknown down here until people started hating on DU (which was silly to begin with)
The "delta" in delta waterfowl has nothing to do with the southern delta. DW has been around before DU. They were relatively unknown down here until people started hating on DU (which was silly to begin with)
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 10/19/17 at 4:49 pm to chinquapin
Yes DU does good work. Plenty will disagree but fugg em. Or butt fugg em
Eta. I don’t understand the logic of supporting DW when bashing DU. Anything that helps us seems good to me
Eta. I don’t understand the logic of supporting DW when bashing DU. Anything that helps us seems good to me
This post was edited on 10/19/17 at 4:53 pm
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