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re: Duck Decline Solution
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:59 pm to Taxman2010
Posted on 8/6/23 at 4:59 pm to Taxman2010
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Duck Decline Solution
Rich guys could stop shooting them.
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Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:20 pm to VernonPLSUfan
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Decrease the amount of days to hunt. If you don't allow hunting one year the amount of money lost from shells, licenses and what not would be a negative effect on everything duck hunting.
Not sure that will ever happen since $$$ drive to he sport today, mfg lobby is strong.
08-10 our primary bird was mallards in grand chenier but they are declining and being replaced by gadwall.
I am doing my part by hanging up the sbeI, juice isnt worth the squeeze anymore.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:36 pm to Cowboyfan89
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somewhere between 50 to 70% of adult birds survive to the next year
CSB:I killed a banded Greenhead back in 1997 that was 13 years old. He came straight in. All by himself. Banked once and sat down almost at my feet.
I would have sworn that he was a first year bird and mine was the first decoy spread he had ever seen.
I don't have anything to add to this discussion so I'll dip.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 5:52 pm to No Colors
Is ChoirBoy and his bunch still stacking green like chordwood? If they are struggling you know shits gotten bad.
This post was edited on 8/6/23 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 8/6/23 at 6:22 pm to Taxman2010
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I would be willing to participate in rolling duck seasons.
Please don’t get offended by what I am about to say. But you are a dumb arse. No offense.
Duck populations are affected by habitat, primarily nesting habitat.
Hunting has very little affect on duck populations.
Also, migration is affected by weather and food availability.
duck numbers in Louisiana have been severely affected by both habitat, destruction and farming practices and warming weather.
You may not be aware of this but ducks only migrate because of evolved habit-forming practices from the Ice Age. As long as food is available ducks do not need to migrate
A few species like gadwall and teal migrate according to day leangth. but the rest mainly migrate because of harsh weather conditions
But I would very much appreciate if you would only hunt every other season. And please convince as many of your friends to do the same.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:43 pm to Guntoter1
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You may not be aware of this but ducks only migrate because of evolved habit-forming practices from the Ice Age. As long as food is available ducks do not need to migrate
A few species like gadwall and teal migrate according to day leangth. but the rest mainly migrate because of harsh weather conditions
Glad to see this said by someone else. Every time someone starts complaining about mallards not being here anymore, I love to point out how fat and lazy a greenhead is. If that bird can find food in Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas all winter, he's not coming to Louisiana, no matter how great the food or habitat is.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:44 pm to Guntoter1
up until hurricane Harvey we used to have great redhead and pintail shoots in the port Aransas area. Not enough birds in the last 5 years to pop a cap
Posted on 8/6/23 at 7:58 pm to choupiquesushi
I know cane has been spreading like wildfire but has that many acres gone back into cotton?
The refuge affect is interesting. Wish they would rotate them every year or so.
I agree, I think the days of 60/6 are numbered.
The refuge affect is interesting. Wish they would rotate them every year or so.
I agree, I think the days of 60/6 are numbered.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:01 pm to Taxman2010
Well all I can add to this conversation is this: the late 70s and 80s had the birds. Gueydan LA was called the duck capitol of the world.
Catahoula Lake was a true adventure, one which left a memory of birds so thick, they would blot the sun. Flight birds were a 24/7 thing….just look up with youthful wonder, and think about where could they be going….all just memories. Ain’t nothing like it use to be.
Catahoula Lake was a true adventure, one which left a memory of birds so thick, they would blot the sun. Flight birds were a 24/7 thing….just look up with youthful wonder, and think about where could they be going….all just memories. Ain’t nothing like it use to be.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:12 pm to Guntoter1
It comes down to climate change, habitat loss, farming practices and probably best described as “other”.
Climate Change- yes that is a factor. The climate changes and it always will. We are coming out of an ice age, and it won’t get better until the pendulum swings back the other way. It is silly to think we can actually stop Earth from doing a natural cycle with the technology we have right now. Maybe in another 500-1000 years we could do it, or slow it down a little.
Habitat loss- tons of habitat loss has occurred and is still occurring. I heard a ratio this summer regarding acres gained : acres created and it was very disappointing/scary. I can’t remember the number but I want to say it was more than 10:1 and could have been closer to 50:1.
Farming practices- leaves a lot of food on the ground for them until it gets covered in ice or snow. Plus when we have big droughts farms up north start going into historical nesting areas to farm if it isn’t protected.
Other- you can name any other reason and combined they might mean as much as the 3 above. The only exclusion could be genetics that were introduced by people releasing Farm ducks.
*axis shifts could be put in climate change since that does affect the climate*
Pick an organization and donate to help save the nesting habitat or creat one yourself, I don’t really care. If you say that you don’t donate because they don’t do enough for the waterfowl then creat one. If you donate, at least you can look at your kids/grandkids and tell them you at least tried to help. Even if it was only $50-$100 a year.
Climate Change- yes that is a factor. The climate changes and it always will. We are coming out of an ice age, and it won’t get better until the pendulum swings back the other way. It is silly to think we can actually stop Earth from doing a natural cycle with the technology we have right now. Maybe in another 500-1000 years we could do it, or slow it down a little.
Habitat loss- tons of habitat loss has occurred and is still occurring. I heard a ratio this summer regarding acres gained : acres created and it was very disappointing/scary. I can’t remember the number but I want to say it was more than 10:1 and could have been closer to 50:1.
Farming practices- leaves a lot of food on the ground for them until it gets covered in ice or snow. Plus when we have big droughts farms up north start going into historical nesting areas to farm if it isn’t protected.
Other- you can name any other reason and combined they might mean as much as the 3 above. The only exclusion could be genetics that were introduced by people releasing Farm ducks.
*axis shifts could be put in climate change since that does affect the climate*
Pick an organization and donate to help save the nesting habitat or creat one yourself, I don’t really care. If you say that you don’t donate because they don’t do enough for the waterfowl then creat one. If you donate, at least you can look at your kids/grandkids and tell them you at least tried to help. Even if it was only $50-$100 a year.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:15 pm to LSU Neil
I quit a few years ago. Still have the camp at the wax but I’ve not seen it in at least two years. The days of sitting in the blind after shooting a limit just to watch the ducks seem like a lifetime ago
at one point we had a blind you could see from the porch of the houseboat. We’d sit on the porch drinking until the birds were decoying and paddle over and bust them.
it’s a shame but I’ve moved on
at one point we had a blind you could see from the porch of the houseboat. We’d sit on the porch drinking until the birds were decoying and paddle over and bust them.
it’s a shame but I’ve moved on
Posted on 8/6/23 at 8:40 pm to cgrand
Best friend was a son of a farmer and then a farmer himself in Jeff Davis parish. We duck hunted the farm hard from 1980 - 2010 or so. Id bet we had one of the top 5 blinds in the parish every year. It was incredible how many ducks and geese we harvested. But I could see the patterns start to change around 2005. Crawfish farms took over a lot of acreage and puddle ducks and geese lost a lot of habitat in sw LA. No food and no place to rest equals no waterfowl. Shoot, its gotten tough to make a decent dove hunt on our old stomping grounds. I sure miss the good old days.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:03 pm to OGhunter777
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Hunting isn’t causing a decline…
This
Not to mention, I’m not sure what the negative effect of a year of lost license and stamp sales would do.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:11 pm to GREENHEAD22
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know cane has been spreading like wildfire but has that many acres gone back into cotton?
The refuge affect is interesting. Wish they would rotate them every year or so.
I agree, I think the days of 60/6 are numbered.
not as much to cotton as cane and cattle - but the locations are key too. kinda like the broken window theory in urban areas.
7 years ago I got home from a semifinal football game at 3:00 am drove 3 hours made it right in time for first light - done in 20 minutes great strap..... did it 2 years ago - fired one shot - fortunately i didn't miss.... heard way more mooo mooo mooo than quacks
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:13 pm to Big Bill
same we had 640 acres of very prime land in jeff davis parish - absolutely glorious 70s through early 90s.... but mallards declined every year from 78 till 91(last year I hunted there). same place probably harvests in a season now what we used to harvest in a weekend.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:15 pm to Cowboyfan89
quote:
quote:
You may not be aware of this but ducks only migrate because of evolved habit-forming practices from the Ice Age. As long as food is available ducks do not need to migrate
A few species like gadwall and teal migrate according to day leangth. but the rest mainly migrate because of harsh weather conditions
Glad to see this said by someone else. Every time someone starts complaining about mallards not being here anymore, I love to point out how fat and lazy a greenhead is. If that bird can find food in Kansas, Missouri, and Arkansas all winter, he's not coming to Louisiana, no matter how great the food or habitat is.
east coast canada geese used to be coastal birds..... land use and agriculture moved them.... permanently
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:17 pm to KemoSabe65
quote:for this flyway the format is SET in stone for now.. 60-6 45-4 or 3 and 30.....
quote:
Decrease the amount of days to hunt. If you don't allow hunting one year the amount of money lost from shells, licenses and what not would be a negative effect on everything duck hunting.
Not sure that will ever happen since $$$ drive to he sport today, mfg lobby is strong.
08-10 our primary bird was mallards in grand chenier but they are declining and being replaced by gadwall.
I am doing my part by hanging up the sbeI, juice isnt worth the squeeze anymore.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:18 pm to Guntoter1
quote:weather patterns here do not reflect this in winter...
warming weather
Posted on 8/6/23 at 9:53 pm to choupiquesushi
Don't hate on the cow pastures too much. Best place I have ever hunted was a flooded cow pasture that we let the grass grow up at the end of summer. We watched it slowly turn from a big duck mecca to a majority teal spot and then they started even not being consistent during big ducks season.
Dr's. Bought it, put levees in, laser leveled it all, built a nice camp and fishing pond. 4 years later they put it in the market and I think there it still sits.
It's was on the decline but they completely ruined it.
Dr's. Bought it, put levees in, laser leveled it all, built a nice camp and fishing pond. 4 years later they put it in the market and I think there it still sits.
It's was on the decline but they completely ruined it.
Posted on 8/6/23 at 10:48 pm to Taxman2010
quote:
Duck Decline Solution
Your solution is to quit hunting?
Nice, works for me
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