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re: Catalpa worms- what happened to them?

Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:32 am to
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40811 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:32 am to
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I’ve been searching marketplace for live worms to try to “seed” my trees with no luck.


Look up 7 posts.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/24 at 9:33 am to
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I dunno. I'm waaaaaaay out in the country with three trees my Grandfather and I planted back in the early 70s. They used-to-be covered up and they were our go-to catfish bait.

Not anymore.

And we've never seen mosquito spray out here in these parts.


Is anyone growing row crops around you? The pesticides they spray on row crops are more potent than the stuff the city sprays.
Posted by WeagleEagle
Folsom Prison
Member since Sep 2011
2618 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:28 am to
Long way from Tallahassee
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28646 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:34 am to
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Long way from Tallahassee


text him to see if he can ship you some pupa.
Posted by Mushroom1968
Shreveport
Member since Jun 2023
6246 posts
Posted on 5/31/24 at 10:54 am to
I’d like to try and grow some. I know of one good tree normally but this year no worms
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
947 posts
Posted on 6/1/24 at 4:03 pm to
Boy no kidding. We used to ride our bikes behind the spray truck because we liked the smell. And so far no tumors. Our moms preferred how we smelled in the summer after that ride than just plain sweat and testosterone. Kids are wimps today. But better humans.
Posted by indytiger
Krotz Springs
Member since Oct 2004
10249 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 2:46 am to
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I can bring whatever you order and pay for . I have frozen catalpa worms, pupa, live starter worms, seed packets, 3 sizes of trees and a book.


Did he mention prices on anything, or what size trees he'd have? Would love a couple out by my pond.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24196 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 5:50 pm to
Those worms are caterpillars that turn into moths/ butterflies right? Assuming people don’t have worms due to the moth/ butterflies dying from the sprays? I bet if you ‘reseeded’ with frozen worms in the spring they’d come back?

ETA: there’s a guy selling catalpa trees and pupa on eBay for reasonable prices. Probably the same guy that was posted above. He sells pupa to reload your trees.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 5:54 pm
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
11217 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 7:26 pm to
Correct. They turn into a sphinx moth. Which is also known as a hummingbird moth. Not pretty at all though. Grey colored.
This post was edited on 6/2/24 at 10:41 pm
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43714 posts
Posted on 6/2/24 at 10:01 pm to
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Is anyone growing row crops around you? The pesticides they spray on row crops are more potent than the stuff the city sprays.


I'm surrounded by peach orchards and chicken houses but no pesticide spraying that I know of. We don't use it on our orchards or our reaper crops.
Posted by greasemonkey
Macclenny Fl aka south JAWJA
Member since Aug 2012
2813 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:42 am to
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I've been told it's due to the mosquito control spray.

I dunno. I'm waaaaaaay out in the country with three trees my Grandfather and I planted back in the early 70s. They used-to-be covered up and they were our go-to catfish bait.

Not anymore.

And we've never seen mosquito spray out here in these parts.

I thought it might be the birds at one time ... but that's not it.




I believe it's fire ants.
I killed all the ants around ours and they started producing after 20 years of no worms
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40811 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 10:57 am to
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Did he mention prices on anything


Only thing I asked about was seeds. 100 seeds for $15.

quote:

what size trees he'd have?


Anything from 4 inches to 4 feet.





Posted by 2Dueces
Member since Dec 2018
359 posts
Posted on 6/3/24 at 2:59 pm to
I've got 2 trees out by my pasture that get worms every year. I probably have 200-300 in the freezer in corn meal. They haven't showed up yet this year. I usually don't start getting any until about mid June. I've had them eat the tree up and the leaves and them come back later in the summer.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
24196 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 10:40 am to
quote:


I believe it's fire ants.
I killed all the ants around ours and they started producing after 20 years of no worms


Very interesting. Fire Ants aren't native right they are from Africa? So it could very well be that a non native predator is killing the worms off that came around in the past 30 or so years?
Posted by Insurancerebel
Madison
Member since Aug 2021
2944 posts
Posted on 6/4/24 at 2:10 pm to
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Growing up we had a few trees in my neighborhood that would get worms every single year. I still notice the trees all over the place, but I haven’t seen one with worms or chewed leaves in probably a decade. Is it the same where you live?


Heated ponds with corn up north is where they are!
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
6063 posts
Posted on 6/5/24 at 9:02 am to
I checked it out, looks like it had had some activity with leaves being eaten but no worms. Birds must have gottem them
Posted by indytiger
Krotz Springs
Member since Oct 2004
10249 posts
Posted on 6/11/24 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

Check out this guy I found on Facebook who sells trees and has his own Catalpa orchard in MS.


Bought some trees from Mr. Ron today when he made his road trip. Very nice fella and very knowledgeable. Clyde, thanks for making the post about him.
Posted by SpotCheckBilly
Member since May 2020
8507 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 7:30 am to
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I have been growing American Chestnuts and PawPaw trees trying to repopulate.


Where have you been getting American chestnuts?
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28646 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 1:16 pm to
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Where have you been getting American chestnuts?


I've planted around 20 hybrid chestnuts at my place. My next project will be trying to increase my number of walnut trees. Have 6-8 mature trees but would like to get a bunch more.

Bought the chestnuts from here: Whitetail Hill Chestnuts

They are just across the state line in north Alabama. About 30 min from my land.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75084 posts
Posted on 6/12/24 at 2:59 pm to
There are some survivor specimens of American Chestnut here and there. There are ongoing efforts to clone the survivors and/or genetically modify saplings from them to reintroduce a disease-resistant American Chestnut.

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