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re: Canebreak Rattler - New Orleans

Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9168 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:54 pm to
clearly, based on the size of the guy, that is an 8' 50# snake.
Posted by meauxjeaux2
watson
Member since Oct 2007
60283 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 1:58 pm to
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He must be really strong


Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4266 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:11 pm to
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choupiquesushi

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cecil field


that's the place. it's where i learned to id them.
that damn NAS had more copperheads/sq mile than any other piece of real estate i've seen
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33822 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:26 pm to
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that's the place. it's where i learned to id them.
that damn NAS had more copperheads/sq mile than any other piece of real estate i've seen



Yes... yes it did... made some great great hunts there.....like a freaking shooting gallery on pigs and small deer.....

fishing on that golf course at night was like something out of mutual of omaha wild kingdom....


fishing the bunker pits at yellow water NWS more snakes than any place esle Ive been.. mocks, copper, rattle water, king.. probably cobras too.... walking along the roads back to truck after dark was fun......


yellow water had very very very few visitors or traffic.. wildlife there was incredible.
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 2:40 pm to
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I doubt that snake is much more than 4 feet.


69"...........
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
33822 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:52 pm to
now here is some confusion... there are non venomous mocassins?

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Posted by dat yat
Chef Pass
Member since Jun 2011
4902 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:23 pm to
I always thought "water mocassin" was a colloquial/layman's term for the poisonous Cottonmouth. Maybe some people call any water snake a mocassin?
Posted by BM7133
Raceland, LA
Member since Feb 2006
1197 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 5:30 pm to
There was a pic posted this week on facebook of a guy in Raceland that killed a canebrake...at least 4 feet.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 9:39 pm to
That's a fairly large joey. Plenty of rattles and the stump tail make him a old snake. Big timbers have stump tails black as night like him.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22273 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:15 am to
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69"...........


Oh, I forgot how legit the measurements on these forced perspective shots always are.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22273 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:20 am to
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Plenty of rattles and the stump tail make him a old snake. Big timbers have stump tails black as night like him.


Not true. Rattlesnakes get a new button on their rattle with each shed. How often they shed depends on how fast they grow, which is dependent on how much food they're getting and the weather. A rattlesnake with 10 rattles could be 2 years old or 40 years old. Likewise one with 2 rattles could be 40 years old because they break off easily. And the color of their tails has nothing to do with age.
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12882 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:30 am to
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But, I'm so tired of the forced perspective photos.


I disagree. That snake looked alive. That pole he's using to hold the snake is at least 25 feet too short, in my opinion.
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4954 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:55 am to
Beautiful snake. Makes some beautiful boots.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7946 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 2:52 pm to
Yep. My snakes shed around every 2-3 months, and I don't overfeed.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:09 pm to
Never killed a 2 footer with 10 rattles and never killed a 5+ footer with 2 rattles. Guess our snakes don't google.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22273 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:18 pm to
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Never killed a 2 footer with 10 rattles and never killed a 5+ footer with 2 rattles. Guess our snakes don't google.


Did you check their growth rings for an accurate age?

You're equating size to age, which is inaccurate. A larger snake will have shed more, and have more rattles (assuming they haven't been broken off). But larger doesn't necessarily mean older. Like most animals, snakes grow quickly for their first couple of years. They can easily shed 5 or more times a year, under the right conditions. So, like I said, a lot of rattles doesn't necessarily mean it's an OLD snake. It probably IS a larger snake.

But, you probably don't google.

This post was edited on 6/8/17 at 7:19 pm
Posted by cypressbrake3
Member since Oct 2014
3681 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 7:40 pm to
I would be really surprised if there were really diamondbacks naturally occurring in the Felicianas, Woodville and Crosby MS.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at LA
Member since Sep 2014
972 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 10:00 pm to
I said it's a large snake by the number of rattles and black stump tail, you say a large snake will shed more and have more rattles..... Don't need google, just a little common sense.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22273 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 10:26 am to
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Plenty of rattles and the stump tail make him a old snake.


Are you quite sure you didn't say the number of rattles indicate age?


I'm not going to keep arguing with you. I simply disputed your point with facts. If the point you made wasn't the one you meant to make, then say that. But, just continuing to argue a falsehood, or shifting your argument isn't going to work.

Posted by zatetic
Member since Nov 2015
5677 posts
Posted on 6/9/17 at 11:00 am to
Some rattlesnakes are getting rid of their rattle. Obviously rattlers are a dead giveaway and decrease their longevity around humans. The rattlesnakes without the rattlers are increasing in proportion.

It is just like the elephants without tusks proportion is increasing. The elephants without tusks are rarely poached compared to the ivory ones so the ones without tusks are breeding more.
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