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jdavid1
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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To me fishing is a puzzle, and puzzles are only fun if you don't know where the next piece goes.


That may be the case for most fishing areas go, but Venice is a different animal. It's not a puzzle, it's a dangerous place if you don't know what you're doing. Hell, just getting out of the jump into to river can be dangerous as shite with all the commercial boat traffic and MS river currents. Listen to what everyone is saying and take a couple of charters.








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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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The guys I know running offshore in those 20 range single engine are doing it out of fourchon and picking their days


And are usually hitting mangroves about 10 miles from the pass....


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pjab
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Just because some dumb arse like me lucked out a few times doesn’t make it a good idea. What they don’t show you on YouTube is them adrift with blown engine wishing they were anywhere else. I’ve been there too, twice.

Stay close.


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Hurricane2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Please read the second half of sentence one that you responded to. The part where I specifically state my intention to take 1 or 2 charters before going out there on my own so I know the area some and the hazards that it presents.


pjab
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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take 1 or 2 charters before going out there on my own so I know the area some and the hazards that it presents.


After 1 or 2 times with someone else at the wheel you will be prepared for anything.


Hurricane2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
I feel like you are being sarcastic, if not my bad. Obviously one or two times isn't enough to be prepared for anything, but It will give me the opportunity to ride with and see with my own eyes the hazards that are available. Not to mention all the time I will have to ask questions to the captian. Hell I've been to hopedale and pointe aux chenes more than I can count and still don't know all the hazards. Not everyone can or wants to pay hundreds to thousands of dollars per fishing trip to visit an area. That I could go myself for the cost of fuel.


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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
If you have a GPS, some map cards will mark many of the structural hazards like wiers and rock jetties. Navionics has most of them marked. Sandbars are dynamic. Seatow is a requirement for fishing venice IMO. If you fish there enough you will get stuck and you will destroy a lower unit. It happens to experienced guys every day out there.


Hurricane2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
The hummingbird helix 9 came preloaded with a ton of nautical charts, depths, bouys, shipping channels,, shipwrecks, etc.


Mr. Hangover
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Plaquemines Parish resident here.. just wanted to offer my opinion:

Bro, take heed to everyone’s advice here and make sure your rig is BEYOND safe to go out of Venice. Time and time again, I’ve seen people with your same attitude go out there and have the worst day of their life. It’s just not worth it. Especially since the inshore fishing out of Venice and the surrounding area is world class.

I’m not trying to be an a-hole, but you should seriously reconsider. I’ve seen it happen way too many times out here


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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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Sandbars are dynamic.


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DownshiftAndFloorIt
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
I've never seen a preload that had a detailed coastal chart but maybe they do exist. Either way, you will have to either stick to the shipping channel or have a plotted course through one of the other passes if you don't want to bank on luck. Safe passage through other passes will not be marked on any preload chart so you'll have to stick to channel markers.


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Hurricane2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Things I currently have on a 2021 xpress h22b with yamaha vmax 200

1)VHF radio with antena
2)Back-up vhf radio
3)class 4 flare gun
4)hand flares
5)GPS with charts
6)up to date sea-tow
7)air horn
8)fire extinguisher
9)properly fitted premium life jackets

Things I've planned on doing before ever venturing offshore in venice.

1) Hire a guide for 1-2 times
2) Run the boat for another 6+ months to make sure the engine is properly working and broken in
3) continue to research the area in the mean time as I always do, this thread is obviously an example of that.

My nearest time frame of going to Venice is next summer so I will have plenty of time to learn my boats limitations and the area. If that isn't a reasonable and responsible pre-planning I don't know what is. People have been traversing through venice in much lower performance boats for the past 50+ years. I fish in the marsh 1-2 times per week and I am an experienced boater. The way you people describe it i will need a 32' contender with dual 300 verados to be able to even drive down the river in venice, when I know damn good and well there are more batoes than bay boats down there...


jdavid1
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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when I know damn good and well there are more batoes than bay boats down there


You know how I know you've never been to Venice before?


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arczr2
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Definitely not a must on twin engines... Have been fishing Venice last 12 plus years out of 24 foot Grady single engine Boat (DF300_... Have no issue running out to Titan/Thunderhorse/Devils tower you name it with 160 gallon tank, pick your days and have a Epirb and PLB and stay on top of your maintenance..Fished drillship in June south of Mars this past summer and 5 other boats out there were all 55 foot plus sportys for one of the triple crown tourneys all on 350 bucks gas plus ice and bait. Loaded box with YFT and jumbo blacks on topwater. Fishbag is must for 150 plus fish though. Been a long time lurker photobucket a must for uploading pics on this site?? Def a tad bit more difficult than im use too.
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LSUengr
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Just like I posted in the other thread, just use common sense about when you go out. Some of these guys are talking like Venice is some special dangerous place to fish. Its not much different than any other place. Can the river be dangerous? Sure it can, when you have 25-30 mph winds, but you won't be out on days like that anyway. Can you hit a sandbar that shifted? Sure, just like anyone else who has been down there 1,000 times and can't do anything about it. Can you get swamped from a tanker loaded down pushing a 4-6' wake? Sure, if you don't know how to handle a boat but that has nothing to do with Venice. Can a storm blow up on you and make conditions difficult? Sure, but you can generally see that coming and get out before it gets rough. Went down the river for years in a 17' aluminum express with a 115 hp motor and never felt unsafe. Go out 12 miles in a 21' express all the time and never feel unsafe. I dont know how far out MC109 is but again use common sense and you will be fine.


34venture
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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300 verados


You're certainly screwed


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Hurricane2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
I feel the same way. There is just no way it can be as dangerous as these people make it out to be. I fish the terrebone bay 90% of the time I fish. I have gone out there in a 17' stratos bass boat in 2-3' chop and had to hug the bank. Not to mention the average depth in the terrebone bay is 3-4' with tons of bars. Ive kayaked in 2-3' seas in my hobies. Regardless of what these elitists think i will be prepared before I go, and it will be a glass calm day. Hell I don't like going out if the wind is over about 12mph its annoying.


CP3
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
Lol there is nothing elitist about it. No one is saying you need a 42ft freeman to go 5 miles offshore. We are just saying if you don’t know the area and have a small aluminum bay boat (which has minimal freeboard and low gunwhales) Venice isn’t really the beat/safest place to just send it. I’ve been fishing pretty regularly down there for the past 5 years or so and there’s still times it will get sketchy, and that’s in a 33ft boat. At the same time though, you’ll see several bay boats swordfishing 20+miles out on a calm day with no issues. I think the point we are all trying to get across is that you just need to ease into it, and not full send downriver to 109 in a 22ft aluminum bay boat.

Even the sea tow Capts tell people that are asking these same exact questions that you are asking, the same exact answers we are giving you. Hire a captain a few times and learn the area first. (which it sounds like you are going to do). He wouldn’t tell people this just because he wants to feel cool, considering he makes his money off of people doing what he says not to do.

No one will stop you at the dock and keep you from going. We are just giving you friendly advice based on our experiences. Learn the area and always use caution, which I’m sure any responsible person would do, and Venice is one of if not the best fishery in the northern hemisphere. Whether you listen to the advice or not is completely up to you.

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TheRouxGuru
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
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The way you people describe it i will need a 32' contender with dual 300 verados


Now you’re talking


Hurricane2020
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Member since Apr 2020
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re: Can someone get me the coordinates for MC109 please?
I definitely plan on easing into it. I plan on mostly staying inshore when I do fish there. Like I said, mc109 is just one of the rigs I wanted to know coordinates for future reference.


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