re: British Lab thread

Damn, I lost my ol boy (10y/o) this past Jan and the want for a pup is getting strong.

The British versus American argument is a valid one but to think that British versus American has any affect on value is asinine

Dude you obviously aren’t interested in contributing to this board other than making a sale on your puppies. You don’t even really engage in the convo, every post is an immediate segway into your ad for sale. You are in direct violation of tigerdrippings rules. This isn’t the shithole lasportsman forums.

My daughter has taken to photography, she took over 200 pics this past weekend and that was one of my favorites. This one ain’t to bad either.

Since there are so many questions it seems.

I’m not going to give out their pricing on a forum.

But, Wildrose does not sell started or finished dogs. They used to. Their dogs are strictly their dogs. They do note breed outside other than a handful of imports from the uk. All their dogs are pure British with all the papers. Most puppies actually have a parent that was actually born and trained in the UK. They now make you take the puppy at 7 weeks old. You then bring the puppy back at 7 months old to start gundog training if you want. The training lasts 6-9 months and most dogs go about 7 months.

The do not use shock collars or force fetch. They do hold train though.

Their goal at the end of gundog training is

1. Complete obedience at home, in the field, at work, in the store, bar, etc.
2. You can hunt the dog in almost any scenario.
3. They are whistle trained, casting back and side to side, they do multiples and multiple blinds in water and land, they hunt cover, they’re steady and honor when hunting with other dogs, deliver to hand, ride in the boat, truck, airplane(yeah mine flys) m, etc.

Example: I can bring my dog to a dog park filled with ridiculously untrained animals running around. I can sit him down in a corner and walk away for an hour and he will not move. Like someone said earlier, he’d probably starve before coming off place and I’m not going to lie. He did test me when he got home. I was new to him and I had to establish that again. Wildrose trainers were on the phone with me daily with updates and suggestions for how to fix little things he was doing. Took about a month to lock him in to me. It’s a little unnerving though when you go to visit your dog after he’s been up there for 5 months and he doesn’t even look at you let alone care who you are because he’s so locked into his trainer. After that first month home though, he’s now line that with me now. He couldn’t give 2 fricks about anyone or anything else going on around him. He’s locked onto me.

That being said it is pure British training methods, and that means he doesn’t always run through the brick wall. In fact most the time he problem solves too much and goes around and hunts with his nose and eyes. When he hunts cover he is a god damned machine. He loves it more than anything. And it is the situation where I get the absolute best reactions out of him. If I send him in cover and he veers, I hit that whistle he is like a god damned statue looking for my help, he knows I know where the bird is. You can literally see him working out the lost bird with my help, it’s amazing. he obeys casting more directly in cover too. If it is open and he knows where the dummy or bird is he can be a little stubborn at times, but in the end he’s still a puppy and that’s the difference between a started and finished dog.

I can only find some really shitty pictures right now but here is mine. 9 years old and still works like a pup

Some context -I very hesitantly started the thread yesterday mentioning my british lab pups being for sale ONLY because i saw someone else mentioning some other pups that were being whelped soon. I even phrased the start of the thread nearly verbatim the way the other guy did so as to sound helpful rather than a sales pitch. Somehow i missed the tigerdroppings bi-law that allowed for sale/marketing of Boykin pups (see thread on next page) vs black british labs. Had know idea TD was so political and played favorites to that that degree. The sarcasm and piling on when someone who isnt a regular poster posts something somewhat informative is what keeps a lot of other knowledgable and helpful folks from interacting. I hope everyone continues enjoying their dogs, hunting season, and has a Merry Christmas and i apologize for whatever feathers have been ruffled in the process. On a positive note - this great British Lab thread got started and got some other folks interested in some awesome dogs!

And the OB is usually a very welcoming place, but you did kinda come across as a dick. Stick around. It’ll get better.

Hold up. Can i share my first experience watching a wild rose dog train?