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re: Boat wreck at Smith Lake today - UPDATE three confirmed deaths
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:54 pm to captdalton
Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:54 pm to captdalton
So he couldn’t have been running down one side of bank and coming around to the other? Based on your pic of the accident location, depending on boater angle, I can see how he could have swung into a stationary vessel with 2 big screens in front of him/her
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Posted on 4/18/25 at 11:55 pm to bayouvette
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Correct. It's liker saying your kid can play in the highway and not expect to get hit by a car.
So it you are anchored in a boat fishing and a tournament bass boat runs over you at 75 mph and kills you , were you just playing in traffic?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:20 am to captdalton
Was there anyone else in the boat that the pro fisherman was driving?
I thought there are always two men to a boat in these fishing tournaments.
I thought there are always two men to a boat in these fishing tournaments.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 1:23 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:26 am to ElDawgHawg
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Listen to the David Kilgore interview. He said he saw the boat and first thing he said was "that boat is in a bad spot"
Here is some gopro footage from another angler that dispels the fog narrative and the guide boat "being in a bad spot". He passes the boat off the point and said he heard the sirens responding about 20 minutes later. Go to about 4:30 for his footage.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 10:29 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:43 am to IAmNERD
He also said the center console was inside the buoy, at least it was when he saw it.
Don't striper boats typically troll? If it was underway, that does make it possible for the charter boat to be at fault, if he was the make way vessel and crossed the bow of the glitter missile.
Don't striper boats typically troll? If it was underway, that does make it possible for the charter boat to be at fault, if he was the make way vessel and crossed the bow of the glitter missile.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:47 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Definitely possible because they do troll. Just trying to put to bed the fog and blind corner theories to bed.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 10:49 am to bayouvette
quote:This has to be one of the worst comparisons I’ve ever seen on TD, and that’s saying something.
Correct. It's liker saying your kid can play in the highway and not expect to get hit by a car.
What if the other boat that got hit was traveling in the opposite direction instead of being stationary fishing there? Would that have been better in your view since the boat would have been part of the traffic instead of just “playing in traffic”
Bottom line is that if you’re approaching a curve on the water and can’t safely see what’s around the curve, its your obligation to slow down to a safe speed. The most basic rule of boater safety.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:31 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Don't striper boats typically troll?
I striper fish Texoma 4 days a week and I haven't trolled in several years.
You can troll/downrig big umbrella rigs for stripers and catch them, but i hate doing it and if I can't catch them on live shad, a sassy shad, topwater or a slab, then I'm just going to find a sand bar and swim.
ETA--after watching the video, the striper boat was not trolling and probably spot locked and tight lining live shad. I fish that exact same way for about 4 months of the year. Definitely not trolling.
Probably set up with a thumper and/or splasher prop to keep the striper schooled up under the boat.
I'm friends with 4 full time year round striper guides here on Texoma and will see what they have to say about it.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 11:44 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:41 am to El Segundo Guy
One of the reasons i like Texoma is the winds and big water keep most of the bassholes away.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:45 am to El Segundo Guy
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ETA--after watching the video, the striper boat was not trolling and probably spot locked and tight lining live shad.
Yea, it wasn't trolling when he passed it. Just curious because that would make it less clear-cut than if he was on anchor or adrift.
Not that the average glitter boat pilot has any idea who has the right of way on the water anyway. They think they do because they got a tournament to win.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 11:58 am to El Segundo Guy
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ETA--after watching the video, the striper boat was not trolling and probably spot locked and tight lining live shad
You can see his trolling motor in the water.
Its fairly crazy that he was hit under those conditions. Its also crazy that there is a camera on damn near everything these days.
I wouldn't doubt the bass fisherman was on his phone while driving. Probably not paying attention, or putting in coordinates or something. Its an inexcusable tragedy.
Given those conditions i'm also honestly shocked all 3 men passed. I'd have thought they would have seen and heard the boat coming and at least one of them could have jumped out of the way. Terrible.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 11:59 am
Posted on 4/19/25 at 12:57 pm to baldona
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You can see his trolling motor in the water.
Spot lock
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:03 pm to baldona
Trolling meaning using the outboard and traveling 5mph or so.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 1:45 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
After seeing that video, I can't think of any possible reason to blame the Striper Captain. It's not tight skinny water around a blind curve. There is zero fog. Unless something freaky happened like one of the clients accidentally bumped the throttle and punched them directly into the path of the bass boat at the last second, I don't see how this can be anyone's fault but the bass fisherman.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:48 pm to deeprig9
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After seeing that video, I can't think of any possible reason to blame the Striper Captain. It's not tight skinny water around a blind curve. There is zero fog.
And this is why It will be ugly for the tournament angler. I feel bad for the kid, 22 years old, and then this.
But I don’t feel as bad for him as I do for the people he killed and their families.
If you look at that video and still think it was because of being in a channel, thick fog, or being in a blind curve you should not operate a boat.
And David Kilgore soft blaming them? A lot of people in the jasper/cullman area are not super stoked about that.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 7:56 pm to captdalton
The striper boat was livebaiting on the drop off on the side of the point. Either spot locked ot trolling motor trolling.
Bass boat comes around the corner doing everything it will, 70-80 mph, and bam.
Bass boat comes around the corner doing everything it will, 70-80 mph, and bam.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:19 pm to WillFerrellisking
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WillFerrellisking quote:
Also I'm getting the curve info from an angler who fished the tournament and seen guide boat in that area in a curve and knew exactly where wreck happened once he heard news.
Who is your friend who was fishing the tournament? Either he or you are completely full of shite.
Blind curve my arse. Anything else you want to add Xhicken?
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:27 pm to captdalton
Yeah that video may get this bass tournament angler some time. There is practically no reason to hit that boat unless he wasn’t paying attention. Hope this hurts the tournament also.
Posted on 4/19/25 at 8:53 pm to TigerDog83
This is a shite show, not just because of the deaths. Cullman and Jasper still want tournaments to come to Smith. But this is a big deal. There will be lawsuits, and if he isn’t charged it will look horrible. Plus the victims were largely local. None of that should really matter but it does.
Davis is likely going to get charged with negligent homicide.
Maybe WillFerrelisKing will provide information from his source.
Davis is likely going to get charged with negligent homicide.
Maybe WillFerrelisKing will provide information from his source.
This post was edited on 4/19/25 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 4/20/25 at 6:55 am to TigerDog83
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unless he wasn’t paying attention.
Do these guys run using electronics mostly without watching where they are going ?
You see them take off a lot of time staring at the screens in front of the steering wheel.
With that white boat out in the wide open, how else do you explain it.
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