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re: Boat wreck at Smith Lake today - UPDATE three confirmed deaths
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:58 am to WillFerrellisking
Posted on 4/17/25 at 8:58 am to WillFerrellisking
Totally agree with you. I fish several tournaments a year.
I'm not blaming him as we don't know the details. I just know that SAFETY should be priority one when on the water.
I'm not blaming him as we don't know the details. I just know that SAFETY should be priority one when on the water.
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Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:23 am to SCwTiger
I’ve seen way too many glitter boats with people who have no sense that will drive that thing as fast as it will go
It’s coming sense to slow down if you can’t see (curve, fog, whatever)
I’ve seen them go wide open in a 50’ channel weaving in and out of the white perch fisherman at darbonne and they should be ticketed for recklessness. If I want to fish in the middle of the boat lane or around a curve I should be able to without having to worry about getting hit by a glitter boater going 70
It’s coming sense to slow down if you can’t see (curve, fog, whatever)
I’ve seen them go wide open in a 50’ channel weaving in and out of the white perch fisherman at darbonne and they should be ticketed for recklessness. If I want to fish in the middle of the boat lane or around a curve I should be able to without having to worry about getting hit by a glitter boater going 70
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:46 am to WillFerrellisking
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Supposedly there’s video out there from another angler so we’ll see how this all plays out. I’m not a fan of everyone just assuming the fella in the bass boat is 100% at fault or bass tournaments are a danger to society. I’d argue that tournament anglers are more in tune with their boats and how to drive more so than the weekend warrior who fishes 4 times a year out of a John boat with a 40hp. Accidents happen whether on land or on water everyday.
I respectfully disagree. It is 100% on the bass boat guy that HIT something. What if it was a floating log? Is it the logs fault for being there?
I don't know if this was a river lake, but plenty of these places have all kinds of debris, buoys, etc. If you are going too fast to avoid hitting something as big as a boat, you are 100% at fault IMO.
The guide may have been in a less than ideal spot, but he wasn't anywhere illegal.
ETA: Now swimming in a boating area, that's a little different. Kayaking too. I don't think you are necessarily at fault, but still gotta be smarter.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:50 am to baldona
They are saying all 3 drown? Damn. Probably knocked out, you gotta wonder if they had inflatable life jackets on if they would have lived.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:50 am to WillFerrellisking
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I’d argue that tournament anglers are more in tune with their boats and how to drive more so than the weekend warrior
Flying around a blind curve in the fog is even more stupid than doing it in the open. Keeping the boat upright while hauling arse does not make someone a good captain.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:51 am to baldona
Friend of a friend was one of the 3 killed
It’s second hand knowledge so I’m not starting any rumors that could turn out to be false, but it sounds like the bass boat is going to be at fault
It’s second hand knowledge so I’m not starting any rumors that could turn out to be false, but it sounds like the bass boat is going to be at fault
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 9:52 am
Posted on 4/17/25 at 9:55 am to WillFerrellisking
I disagree.
If you're driving and come around a corner and hit a car in the road that is stopped for traffic, the stopped car isn't the one that gets the ticket. It's the guy coming around the curve.
If this guy was driving so fast that he could not react to a situation like we have, then he was driving too fast. It's 100% on him.
Just because there is a tournament going on, that doesn't warrant a guide from making a living by taking other people out for a fishing trip.
If you're driving and come around a corner and hit a car in the road that is stopped for traffic, the stopped car isn't the one that gets the ticket. It's the guy coming around the curve.
If this guy was driving so fast that he could not react to a situation like we have, then he was driving too fast. It's 100% on him.
Just because there is a tournament going on, that doesn't warrant a guide from making a living by taking other people out for a fishing trip.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:04 am to Ron Cheramie
quote:May be the first time I have ever disagreed with one of your posts.
If I want to fish in the middle of the boat lane or around a curve I should be able to without having to worry about getting hit by a glitter boater going 70
Posted on 4/17/25 at 10:22 am to SCwTiger
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Totally agree with you. I fish several tournaments a year.
I guess that makes you an expert.
JK quote:
I'm not blaming him as we don't know the details. I just know that SAFETY should be priority one when on the water.
All true. I am reading a few reports now that are hinting that the guide boat was actually in a no wake zone stationary. Lets wait and see what the actual report says before we cast blame on a guide or even give him any of the blame. Guy could have just been out there making a living correctly when he was hit. If you are fishing and a boat comes at him very fast, there is no way to get out of the way.
The USCG training teaches us that you are basically at fault if you are in a collision. And its taught that way so that your first instinct is always to avoid a collision. But there are just sometimes that is impossible.
I feel for everyone involved. The ones responsible and the ones that are victims.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 12:59 pm to AlxTgr
Correct. It's liker saying your kid can play in the highway and not expect to get hit by a car.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:19 pm to bayouvette
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It's liker saying your kid can play in the highway and not expect to get hit by a car.
bullshite, not even close to the same thing
You are responsible for your boat and it's wake. People can legally fish wherever they want to, it is your legal obligation to not hit them. The people fishing have the same rights as the a-hole bass guys hauling arse whether its on a straight away or a curve. Hopefully the basshole catches charges and jail time to think about his actions and won't drive like an a-hole if he's ever on the water again.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:30 pm to bayouvette
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Correct. It's liker saying your kid can play in the highway and not expect to get hit by a car.
It's legal to be on a boat on the water, it's not legal to play in the highway.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:44 pm to GooDat
quote:Nothing in the discussion you are quoting had anything to do with any boat being hit.
People can legally fish wherever they want to, it is your legal obligation to not hit them.
quote:In and of itself is not an issue.
a-hole bass guys hauling arse
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:47 pm to AlxTgr
funny thing is yalls opinion would be complete opposite if a big offshore boat ran over a bass boat that was fishing in Venice
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:50 pm to Ron Cheramie
"I’ve seen them go wide open in a 50’ channel weaving in and out of the white perch fisherman at darbonne and they should be ticketed for recklessness. If I want to fish in the middle of the boat lane or around a curve I should be able to without having to worry about getting hit by a glitter boater going 70"
Chances are I may have been one of them back a few years ago. Fishing the "channel" is part of the problem. You have a whole lake to fish and trolling right through a channel especially on a lake like D'Arbonne where you can't run outside of the channels is JUST as dangerous.
Yeah I slow down and in certain areas where they are thick I get off pad and Idle, but it's pretty frustrating to the guys fishing a tournament that they have to burn time in their day to idle through areas they should be able to run.
No one owns the water and you have to find a happy medium but it sounds like neglegence from MLF here for not delaying fishing hours until the fog lifted and also a bad call by the guide boat to 1. have a guide trip during a major tournament and 2. be in a spot he knew would be a visibility issue.
Bad deal all around and 3 people are dead because of it. And the other guy will NEVER get over it I'm sure. Just a sad day no matter how you look at it.
Chances are I may have been one of them back a few years ago. Fishing the "channel" is part of the problem. You have a whole lake to fish and trolling right through a channel especially on a lake like D'Arbonne where you can't run outside of the channels is JUST as dangerous.
Yeah I slow down and in certain areas where they are thick I get off pad and Idle, but it's pretty frustrating to the guys fishing a tournament that they have to burn time in their day to idle through areas they should be able to run.
No one owns the water and you have to find a happy medium but it sounds like neglegence from MLF here for not delaying fishing hours until the fog lifted and also a bad call by the guide boat to 1. have a guide trip during a major tournament and 2. be in a spot he knew would be a visibility issue.
Bad deal all around and 3 people are dead because of it. And the other guy will NEVER get over it I'm sure. Just a sad day no matter how you look at it.
This post was edited on 4/17/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:52 pm to bbvdd
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Just because there is a tournament going on, that doesn't warrant a guide from making a living by taking other people out for a fishing trip
NO... but it sounds like he could have used better judgement and maybe delayed the trip an hour or two until visibility was better.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 1:54 pm to AlxTgr
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quote:
People can legally fish wherever they want to, it is your legal obligation to not hit them.
Nothing in the discussion you are quoting had anything to do with any boat being hit.
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a-hole bass guys hauling arse
In and of itself is not an issue.
Don't you love how its the Bass Boat guys that are always to blame.
110+ boat tournament on the lake and I guarantee every ramp on the lake was slam full. I have never understood why people do that. If I know there's a tournament on a lake, I'm 100% going somewhere else that day if not fishing the tournament. Why fish in a crowd, Alabama is SLAM FULL of lakes.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:00 pm to WillFerrellisking
quote:Doesn't matter what you think, we have boater laws for a reason and the boat underway is at fault.
I’m blaming both
I love how you started off being completely neutral, and then gradually descended into blaming someone else for the ditch pickle tournament fisherman's negligence. *Chef's kiss*
Don't ever fish Ross Barnett if you think people fishing in blind curves are irresponsible because on a busy Saturday you'll see it hundreds of times per mile. It's not no wake, but only a self-important moron would be on step full throttle down that channel and upper river, and if he hit someone, bet your arse he's got a problem on his hands and his hands only.
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:00 pm to ElDawgHawg
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Don't you love how its the Bass Boat guys that are always to blame
take the crying to a thread that isn't literally about a bass boat guy killing 3 innocent people
Posted on 4/17/25 at 2:09 pm to GooDat
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funny thing is yalls opinion would be complete opposite if a big offshore boat ran over a bass boat that was fishing in Venice
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