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Boat Market Morning Rant

Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:58 am
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 5:58 am
When will the boat market slow down?? Surely with gas prices and the cost of living going through the roof, the used boat market will make a comeback with all the boats purchased at the beginning of Covid.

I ordered a boat 4 months ago that was promised 3-4 months delivery time because the manufacturer had the engines in stock. Well, needless to say, my dealer contacted me yesterday informing me my engines would be in "maybe" by March 2023 and that the boat and motor will have a significant price increase. On a side note, I give props to the dealer for contacting me about price increases and returning my deposit with no questions asked. I will be doing business with Metro boating again in the future!
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14296 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:05 am to
What motor? I'm not seeing where the dealer was very helpful here .
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:24 am to
Mercury Pro XS. I’ve read horror stories on other pages of people receiving their boat with a huge price increase and no notice. Or was notified of the price increase and couldn’t get their deposit back. FYI looks like Mercury will have a 20% price increase on 2023 engines.
Posted by doublecutter
Hear & Their
Member since Oct 2003
6589 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:41 am to
Could it be that the dealer kept your boat and sold it to someone else for more money?
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:49 am to
My boat sat in storage at the factory for a couple of months waiting for an engine. That same boat is over $5k more in 2022.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
10944 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 6:56 am to
quote:

price increase
On an ordered boat?

Any money down?



Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:03 am to
Yes, Money was down. They did inform me when I first acquired about ordering that if the engine wasn't available by the end of 2022 the 2023 year model would have a price increase.
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 7:05 am to
quote:

Could it be that the dealer kept your boat and sold it to someone else for more money?


I contacted the Manufacture to ensure this wasn't the case.
Posted by John_V
SELA
Member since Oct 2018
1750 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:00 am to
Like you said the engines are where the old ups are on the market. Guy I know blew his 250 and Merc told him without a new boat order he wouldn't be seeing a new Merc 250 for a few years.
I'm all for financing a boat, but paying cash/upfront might be the only way to keep the price you signed up for with how the market is
Posted by LEASTBAY
Member since Aug 2007
14296 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:02 am to
Can you not order the boat without it and grab a Suzuki? I see them come available often when they trickle into dealers or motors come in and buyers cancel.
Posted by jmorr34
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
2890 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:50 am to
quote:

Can you not order the boat without it and grab a Suzuki? I see them come available often when they trickle into dealers or motors come in and buyers cancel.


My dad got a suzuki for this reason. He's having a reno skiff built and went with the zuk since they were available.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 8:51 am
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
16571 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 8:53 am to
quote:

When will the boat market slow down?


Not sure if it will. I'm just hoping that the supply catches up. I'm guessing prices will remain absurd.
Posted by bbarras85
Member since Jul 2021
1984 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:01 am to
Thinking about selling my bass boat right now. I could get almost what I paid for it new six years ago
Posted by latech15
Member since Aug 2015
1170 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:17 am to
Not that it helps, but the practice of taking a deposit and being subject to price changes after the deposit and before the delivery is becoming a more common. Manufacturers are going to keep this practice in place as long as customers keep accepting it. Once customer start cancelling orders and taking their deposits back and the shelves fill up, it will go away.

BTW - I haven't seen this practice be implemented WITHOUT the option to refund the deposit if you don't like the increase. I guess you have to be ready for anything in the event that you sign up for a deal without that option.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 10:42 am to
quote:

guess you have to be ready for anything in the event that you sign up for a deal without that option.


Nobody should be accepting that. I would never sign a contract with those conditions. We agree on a price now or you agree to refund my deposit if I don't like the delivered price once it is determined
Posted by bushwacker
youngsville
Member since Feb 2010
3598 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:23 pm to
I've been trying to sell my prodrive boat n motor for the last 2 months. Only getting a few lowball offers. Nothing serious. It's a 2016 and priced less than half of a new one. Guess i need to go lower.....

my dad sold his bay boat for 8k more than he paid for it in a week. guess that's where the market is right now.
Posted by MarshMan
Ponchatoula
Member since May 2015
618 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 12:43 pm to
quote:

Can you not order the boat without it and grab a Suzuki? I see them come available often when they trickle into dealers or motors come in and buyers cancel



Suzuki is the only option pretty much available for every boat. I'm not a Suzuki fan. Nothing against them I just like Mercury and Yamahas performance motors.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
25005 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 1:55 pm to
In another few months to a year the boat market is going to crash.
We are headed for what will likely be a pretty bad recession.
I’d say in 2 years, if so supply chain issues are resolved, boat prices will crater.

ETA: gone are the days of cash out refinancing a house to make a big down payment on a boat.
30yr fixed hit 5.78% y-day.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 1:58 pm
Posted by AUTimbo
Member since Sep 2011
2869 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

That same boat is over $5k more in 2022.


Thank God I was able to get mine last year.
The same exact boat would be almost $17,000 more if I had waited one more year. That would have kept me from getting what I WANTED
and forced me to probably get less than what I had been waiting for many years.
This post was edited on 6/17/22 at 2:34 pm
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81646 posts
Posted on 6/17/22 at 2:36 pm to
quote:

Thank God I was able to get mine last year.
We both timed it right, apparently.

Finally got the Amped TM batteries in, but haven't run it yet. Will be interesting.
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