re: BIDENS CRAZY GUN PROGRAM IS SCARY

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Here is what I don't understand.

And I don't care who you voted for in the election.

The election was 3 weeks ago and people don't know what one of his biggest policies are and affect pretty much everyone on this forum.

it kinda pisses me off to be honest.

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it's 100% on purpose though. That's why Dem's play the emotional angle so they can avoid policy discussions. And it's successful because the media (and voters too) won't call them out on it. It's really as simple and obvious as that.

/rant

Just like Biden had a plan for Covid huh? That he told no one what it was. Until after he was elected. And the plan was to set up a Covid task force.


fricking clown world.

Yes. I sure did. But the general public did not. The only thing they knew about him was he wasnt trump.

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Here is what I don't understand.

And I don't care who you voted for in the election.

The election was 3 weeks ago and people don't know what one of his biggest policies are and affect pretty much everyone on this forum.

it kinda pisses me off to be honest.

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Boom.

My plan is to talk to my democrat friends and see if they are willing to sell their stuff to me. Should be able to get it cheap unless they want to be a felon. Not one of them has a clue that this is biden’s plan.

From ATF & Biden

ATF

The NFA was originally enacted in 1934. Similar to the current NFA, the original Act imposed a tax on the making and transfer of firearms defined by the Act, as well as a special (occupational) tax on persons and entities engaged in the business of importing, manufacturing, and dealing in NFA firearms. The law also required the registration of all NFA firearms with the Secretary of the Treasury. Firearms subject to the 1934 Act included shotguns and rifles having barrels less than 18 inches in length, certain firearms described as “any other weapons,” machine guns, and firearm mufflers and silencers.

While the NFA was enacted by Congress as an exercise of its authority to tax, the NFA had an underlying purpose unrelated to revenue collection. As the legislative history of the law discloses, its underlying purpose was to curtail, if not prohibit, transactions in NFA firearms. Congress found these firearms to pose a significant crime problem because of their frequent use in crime, particularly the gangland crimes of that era such as the St. Valentine’s Day Massacre. The $200 making and transfer taxes on most NFA firearms were considered quite severe and adequate to carry out Congress’ purpose to discourage or eliminate transactions in these firearms. The $200 tax has not changed since 1934.

As structured in 1934, the NFA imposed a duty on persons transferring NFA firearms, as well as mere possessors of unregistered firearms, to register them with the Secretary of the Treasury. If the possessor of an unregistered firearm applied to register the firearm as required by the NFA, the Treasury Department could supply information to State authorities about the registrant’s possession of the firearm. State authorities could then use the information to prosecute the person whose possession violated State laws. For these reasons, the Supreme Court in 1968 held in the Haynes case that a person prosecuted for possessing an unregistered NFA firearm had a valid defense to the prosecution — the registration requirement imposed on the possessor of an unregistered firearm violated the possessor’s privilege from self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution. The Haynes decision made the 1934 Act virtually unenforceable.

Biden

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

End the online sale of firearms and ammunitions. Biden will enact legislation to prohibit all online sales of firearms, ammunition, kits, and gun parts.

And there's your $200 tax for each "assault rifle" + $200 for each magazine. & if you do not comply, hello tax evasion charges.

And if you think they are not coming for the guns, I don't know what to say to you.

Biden BS

Don’t assume that tax will stay at $200 either. What’s today’s equivalent of $200 in 1934?

Also don’t think he’ll wait for Congress to act. He’ll put executive orders to work and see how far he can go.

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Magazines don’t have serial numbers. How does one assign a stamp to a magazine?

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I was wondering the same. I think the Dems wants to ban high capacity magazines and possibly have them as part of a buy back. However, the verbiage about Assault Rifles and High Cap Magazines being registered was probably a little overzealous.

I think they will go for the guns but will probably fall short on the magazines. From what I have read I also think it's likely they increase the amount from $200.

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Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

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This is a completely misleading statement. Sure the law is in place and the guns are rarely if ever used in crimes. IMO this is not a factor of the law being a law it’s a factor of the citizens that follow the law are law abiding citizens.

Criminals are sometimes in the lower income demographic and paying $200 on top of a $500 suppressor may not be very economical for them. Not Theo mention what the price of a registered full auto is these days.

And then you have the fact that they are criminals. Probably broke laws before so are these people really going to go to a store and fill out paperwork to send to the FBI to ask permission to buy a suppressor or SBR? No they aren’t.

So with that said if more gun laws would really work the NFA would of ended/cut gang violence. Since has in the statement that is the reason the laws were enacted. Can anyone find a study of any kind that would show that violence from gangs or criminals is down? So what we have here is what gun rights activists have been says for decades. Anti-gun legislation is a long con game.

They aren’t going to ban AR’s over night. AR’s would be put in the NFA and new manufacturing will be banned. Then of course that will have nearly zero effect on murders in this country (due to only around 500 murders every year are done with rifles of any kind). So the next step would be well the pistols are the real problem. So they need to be treated the same as AR’s. So pistols will be put in the NFA. Then in 50-100 years semi-auto shotguns might need to put in the NFA as well.

I side on the side freedom. Criminals will criminal and I would rather be free to defend myself and loved ones.

Not to mention it seems every year/month we are setting new records for 4473 background checks, however the violent crime rate has been on a decline for years.

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I side on the side freedom. Criminals will criminal and I would rather be free to defend myself and loved ones.

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Overwhelming majority of sane people feel this way. But just recently, 80 million + voted against rational discourse & have now led us down this path. It still bothers me that Trump did not hammer this every moment during his campaign.