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ATF Proposed Rule Regarding Stabilizing Braces
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:10 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 2:10 pm
DOJ announcement here: LINK
ATF statement here: LINK
Proposed rule here: LINK
They are incorporating a point system to decide if a stabilizing brace does or does not fall within the NFA. From looking at the point system, most AR pistols with popular, adjustable stabilizing braces will now be governed by the NFA.
No word on whether or not current AR pistols with stabilizing braces will have to be registered.
Someone please tell me how many "mass shootings" and other violent crimes have been carried out by persons using AR pistols with stabilizing braces?
ATF statement here: LINK
Proposed rule here: LINK
They are incorporating a point system to decide if a stabilizing brace does or does not fall within the NFA. From looking at the point system, most AR pistols with popular, adjustable stabilizing braces will now be governed by the NFA.
No word on whether or not current AR pistols with stabilizing braces will have to be registered.
Someone please tell me how many "mass shootings" and other violent crimes have been carried out by persons using AR pistols with stabilizing braces?
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 3:09 pm
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Posted on 6/7/21 at 3:37 pm to DownSouthJukin
frick those dickheads.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:36 pm to DownSouthJukin
So if that passes might as well turn mine into a sbr right
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:48 pm to DownSouthJukin
This is so asinine, particularly because the entire premise behind restricting SBRs in the first place no longer applies. In 1934 no standard service rifle had barrel shorter than 16", so the government's rationale was that anyone seeking one did not intend to use it in a defensive or militia capacity as the 2A would dictate, but for illegal purposes (due to concealability). However, in 2021 the standard service rifle (the M4) has a barrel length of 14.5", thus making the 16" requirement obsolete by the government's own reasoning.
So, instead of abandoning a restriction that no longer makes any sense, the government is naturally cracking down even harder on it.
This is why you never, ever give an inch.
So, instead of abandoning a restriction that no longer makes any sense, the government is naturally cracking down even harder on it.
This is why you never, ever give an inch.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 4:54 pm to TideCPA
Agree 100%!
And we all know that this will force criminals to turn in these weapons or register their new ones. :smh:
And we all know that this will force criminals to turn in these weapons or register their new ones. :smh:
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:06 pm to SpookeyTiger
I'm sad to say, this is why I haven't built an AR pistol.
There's just too much movement back and forth regarding the braces. One month it's legal, next month you're a felon.
There's just too much movement back and forth regarding the braces. One month it's legal, next month you're a felon.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 5:41 pm to davidlsu
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So if that passes might as well turn mine into a sbr right
Hard to imagine this not passing
Posted on 6/7/21 at 6:08 pm to Scoob
You’re being a touch dramatic.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 7:00 pm to turkish
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You’re being a touch dramatic.
Go read the last link and look at the two proposed ATF forms and the scoring metrics, then try again.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 8:55 pm to DownSouthJukin
Simple fact is that these pistols/rifles are not a problem. The government douches just want their control over us.
The ATF is a scum organization and should be disbanded immediately.
ETA
IMO the ATF/elected POS are mad that the industry took the laws that they wrote and made items that were legal under said law. Then they come back and say well we didn’t think you would be able to make that, so here are some new laws.
The ATF is a scum organization and should be disbanded immediately.
ETA
IMO the ATF/elected POS are mad that the industry took the laws that they wrote and made items that were legal under said law. Then they come back and say well we didn’t think you would be able to make that, so here are some new laws.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 9:03 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:21 pm to DownSouthJukin
The B&T FB page had a discussion on the point system. Looks like the rifle caliber pistols are going to have issues coming in. Shame.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:35 pm to Kino74
If they do ram this through (which I full expect them to) I’m hoping this will end up like bump stocks.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:36 pm to DownSouthJukin
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ATF Proposed Rule
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:52 pm to Clames
I just meant this threat is not a reason to have been afraid of buying an AR pistol in the past, as was stated in the post I replied to.
As such, Scoob is being dramatic.
As such, Scoob is being dramatic.
This post was edited on 6/7/21 at 9:55 pm
Posted on 6/7/21 at 9:56 pm to bbvdd
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If they do ram this through (which I full expect them to) I’m hoping this will end up like bump stocks.
I'm curious if it does pass and gets overturned in federal court would it be appealed? The decision to appeal or not is going to signal just how the Biden bunch feels about the SCOTUS makeup.
Posted on 6/7/21 at 10:08 pm to Kino74
It’ll surely pass, and almost surely get overturned like the bump stocks did.
Don’t think they have the balls to appeal to the SC
Don’t think they have the balls to appeal to the SC
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:22 am to turkish
quote:No, I'm just being honest.
I just meant this threat is not a reason to have been afraid of buying an AR pistol in the past, as was stated in the post I replied to.
As such, Scoob is being dramatic.
I decided on a carbine instead of a pistol w/brace, since the carbine almost certainly would survive being grandfathered in; while there has always been some contention about braces and the legality of shouldering it.
100% honest here, I have no intention of shooting such a firearm without shouldering it. So, I went with the safer option.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 4:30 am to brightside878
quote:I dunno; with the Dems having the EO and both houses of Congress, I think they want to (almost have to) push SOMETHING across, just to show they "did something" for their anti-gun money men.
It’ll surely pass, and almost surely get overturned like the bump stocks did.
Don’t think they have the balls to appeal to the SC
This might be the easiest target to go after.
I don't think handguns are a viable option, with so many states moving towards Constitutional Carry (and so many new handgun owners). I suspect of the newbies buying ARs, most went with rifles, so this won't affect that crowd either.
I know it's popular, but the small AR with a brace is still a relatively small crowd in comparison.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:18 am to turkish
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turkish
Found the ATF agent.
Posted on 6/8/21 at 9:03 am to davidlsu
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So if that passes might as well turn mine into a sbr right
If this passes, it will automatically be considered an SBR.
Whether you register it that way or not is up to you.
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