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re: Armed Open Carry Extremist!!!

Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:18 am to
Posted by BAMAisDIESEL09
Member since Jul 2012
2658 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:18 am to
I am for open carry but walking around with an AR-15 slung over your back is a little extreme. It will only bring negative attention to them and supporters of the 2A. Open carrying pistols on the hip is a little more discrete and practical. In highly populated areas, concealed carry is the best method of maintaining civility.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:19 am to
quote:

how about my G19 on my side while I pump gas at night? I like the option to OC when I feel the need


Only racist scary white tea party members do that.

Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4799 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:21 am to
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how about my G19 on my side while I pump gas at night? I like the option to OC when I feel the need.

This isn't a discussion on OC.

This is talking about how these guys are going about it. They aren't walking into Chipolte with a G19 in a holster ordering a burrito.

They have a group of guys walking in together with ARs strapped to their back and using it as an opportunity to do photo shoots inside the restaurant. Clearly not everyone is comfortable with it which has forced these places to ban guns completely in their establishments because it was creating concern among other patrons and workers.

They are clearly doing it for shock value.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:21 am to
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concealed carry is the best method of maintaining civility.


I agree. However open carry is open carry, I fall into the protect all aspects of the 2A camp, not the only what the opposition group is ok with at this point in time camp.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72013 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:21 am to
I'm not ok with giving up shite and that's why I want people to quit doing dumb shite like this. There's much better ways to go about protecting your rights. What these clowns are doing is giving Hillary some great photos to use to scare the voting women of this country into outlawing stuff. The average person is going to want these guys to not be able to do what they're doing because they think it's stupid and dangerous.
Posted by H.M. Murdock
B.A.'s Van
Member since Feb 2013
2113 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:23 am to
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places to ban guns completely in their establishments


As the folks who own that property are well within their rights to do so.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72013 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:23 am to
That doesn't even belong in this conversation. That's not intentionally kicking the ants.
Posted by Crawdaddy
Slidell. The jewel of Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
19234 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:29 am to
so you are cool with open carry? At some point it becomes attention seeking and that is not cool?

Attention whores are not cool, I understand.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
72013 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:32 am to
I don't think it's very smart in most public places, but I like that it's legal. I just don't like these idiots trying to make a statement. They're doing it wrong.
Posted by Rize
Spring Texas
Member since Sep 2011
19324 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:37 am to
I don't know about you guys but if I see a bunch of arse clowns walk into a public place with AR's I'm going to be on high alert. With all these mass shootings how in the hell am I supposed to know if they have daddy issues or not and are about to shoot the place up?
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:42 am to
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As the Constitution is written no one can frick the 2A except a Constitutional Convention


I very highly recomend you take five min. and research this because you are either grossly misinformed or are purposefully spreading false information. There are several ways to have an ammendment added that modifies the second and none of them involve a Constitutional Convention.
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:49 am to
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How can you not see that giving up your right to carry is giving into the other side? You just believe in giving things up in fear of them being vocal about challenging the your constitutionally protected right. You would rather limit the law than lose it? That is your stance. Your youth leads you to believe that giving a little is ok. The fact is, our gun rights have been attacked for the last 40 years, and incrementalism is their path.


I think both of you are correct. It's kinda like excessive celebration after scoring. There was no infraction. Early on, it was amusing,then it became annoying, then it became illegal. Act like you've been there before. It's never manly to flaunt.
Posted by Langston
Member since Nov 2010
7685 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:51 am to
If I was a liberal that wanted guns banned in certain stores, I would show up with a couple friends and AR's strapped to our back and enter and start shooting pictures. Seems to be working because every time someone does it, the company is putting out a letter banning them from their property.
Who's to say some of these asshats aren't liberals doing just that?
Posted by Themole
Palatka Florida
Member since Feb 2013
5557 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 7:58 am to
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If I was a liberal that wanted guns banned in certain stores, I would show up with a couple friends and AR's strapped to our back and enter and start shooting pictures. Seems to be working because every time someone does it, the company is putting out a letter banning them from their property.
Who's to say some of these asshats aren't liberals doing just that?



It's their agenda. They've taken the very rights we cherish to the extreme and turned/used them against us. Common sense and good judgment is always the best policy.
Posted by Mung
Ba’on Rooj
Member since Aug 2007
9271 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:13 am to
Riiiiiiiiight, and the guys in this thread vigorously supporting open carry are actually liberals in disguise. Damn libruhls, they are a crafty bunch.

quote:

Westbrook Baptist Church


Best analogy thus far. Attention whores whose actions could harm the 2A cause more than help it.
Posted by rattlebucket
SELA
Member since Feb 2009
12807 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:16 am to
Im with downshift and roger.

Truth is, there was probably several people in chilis and these other areas who were already sitting down and eating and already CC & exercising their right.

These guys filming their excursion shows their intent. Shock and flaunting their right.

While I fully support their right they are doing more damage than good, like Roger said, in the PR war.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40799 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:17 am to
I think both you and Murdock have good points.

Here is my issue.

Regardless of what these attention seekers are doing, it's pretty hard to conceal a long gun. If those rights are taken away, then your right to carry a rifle down to a local gun show will be gone. Your right to take a deer rifle from the parking lot into a pawn shop is gone. Or what about your right to carry that deer rifle on public property to hunt.

Therefore, I have to support the shite heads carrying them into Chili's.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
16036 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

How can you not see that giving up your right to carry is giving into the other side? You just believe in giving things up in fear of them being vocal about challenging the your constitutionally protected right. You would rather limit the law than lose it? That is your stance. Your youth leads you to believe that giving a little is ok. The fact is, our gun rights have been attacked for the last 40 years, and incrementalism is their path.


How can you be this illogical? No one is saying dont carry! It is a great thing to carry and it is our right to carry. Just because they arent breaking any laws doesnt mean they arent put those laws in jeopardy. Bring your AR to Home Depot if the time ever calls for it. Until then, your concealed side arm will suffice.
Posted by GreenTrout
Toledo Bend
Member since Jul 2013
1010 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:21 am to
I have two problems with this thread. Chiefly among them is the fact that we have the right to openly carry. I'm sorry if that offends some people, or it gives bad PR. If I want to walk through downtown Baton Rouge with my dirty harry pistol I will. My second problem is with the people, to which this thread is about. I believe they went over the line by doing it on purpose. They weren't doing it while going about their everyday life, but rather to get the reactions that they indeed did get.
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
22277 posts
Posted on 6/3/14 at 8:29 am to
We have the right to open carry. And we should have the intelligence to know when to use it - like if there's a mass murderer loose in your neighborhood. Walking around with a rifle strapped to you will do nothing good for our rights. The political BS that BOTH sides keep throwing in each others' faces is what's keeping the gun debate in the news. Guess what? Despite what Fox news or any other news will tell you, the average american really doesn't care enough to argue about guns one way or the other if everybody would just act like normal human beings. It's the jerry springer news that has the debate raging and idiots from both sides are eating it up.

USE your rights. Don't abuse them.

These guys are doing nothing good for the 2nd amendment.
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