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Are we doing it wrong? Would peepaw approve?
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:26 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:26 am
Your average deer hunter in Louisiana pays a pretty good penny to sit in a box in the middle of a pine thicket watching his 1/10 acre food plot (if we get the rain to get it growing).
Spends a mint on corn and rice bran, worries about his feeders
Spends money and time on his cameras and checking his cameras just for the hope that the one 16” buck he has on camera at midnight may make the mistake of coming out in the daylight in front of his stand instead of the neighbors stand 200 yards away
He gripes about the timber company that comes in during deer season that clearcuts all around his stand and then has a bunch of migrant workers coming around planting during middle of deer season.
And when he finally gets a deer, he takes a picture with only him and the deer usually mean mugging the camera not smiling
Dog hunters don’t have to worry about that crap.
They can stay up half the night playing cards and drinking because they don’t have to get up early
Don’t have to worry about deer being nocturnal
Don’t spend money on corn feeders, cameras, Sitka gear
Wind direction doesn’t matter
At the end of the day, the deer that are killed are displayed with everyone from the camp behind them smiling and having a good time
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Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:36 am to Ron Cheramie
Not gonna bring my little girl on a dog drive but every penny spent on corn and a lease is worth it when I can look over in that box stand and see her smiling and looking out the window. I've learned I don't care how much noise she makes and if we don't see anything. Once you become a parent, it changes
To truly deer hunt, I hunt public land and chase them that way. I ave no problem with dog hunters but not a lot of peoples cup of tea.
Also, I haven't been around many camps around here where getting up early has stopped us from playing Bourre half the night.
To truly deer hunt, I hunt public land and chase them that way. I ave no problem with dog hunters but not a lot of peoples cup of tea.
Also, I haven't been around many camps around here where getting up early has stopped us from playing Bourre half the night.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 7:37 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:45 am to Ron Cheramie
My pawpaw would!!
You see, what we do is we plant food plots and plant year around and we try to grow bigger deer while passing up smaller deer that if they were shot would just go in a pile or nailed to a shed.
We all cut up cooking and drinking every wknd, some of us get up early and some just sleep in. We recognize that the deer that’s on our lease is not ours and is covering several pieces of property and truly get excited when one of our buddies kills a deer that have deemed a “shooter” because we are friends an not just “ stuck” in a club with people we don’t like.
If someone shoots deer that’s not what we want to shoot we know they feel bad about it because of the time and effort they have put into the place so there’s no hard feelings, we are friends and all have decided our friendship is worth more than a 2.5yr old that may die of blue tongue or hit by a car the next year.
So yeah I think my pawpaw would approve of the group of guys that I spend the majority of the year with and how they have helped raise my kids and teach them how to not only hunt but cook, clean, socialize, build a fire, work, and manage a place into a decent place to enjoy gods creation.
Regardless of how many or how big of a deer is killed, I think my pawpaw is looking down with a smile on his face.
BTW I have dog hunted and I have seen some dog hunters who would get jealous if someone killed a deer and would try to get the good spots or make sure they were with the group that turned loose cus they knew the big bucks would double back!!
You see, what we do is we plant food plots and plant year around and we try to grow bigger deer while passing up smaller deer that if they were shot would just go in a pile or nailed to a shed.
We all cut up cooking and drinking every wknd, some of us get up early and some just sleep in. We recognize that the deer that’s on our lease is not ours and is covering several pieces of property and truly get excited when one of our buddies kills a deer that have deemed a “shooter” because we are friends an not just “ stuck” in a club with people we don’t like.
If someone shoots deer that’s not what we want to shoot we know they feel bad about it because of the time and effort they have put into the place so there’s no hard feelings, we are friends and all have decided our friendship is worth more than a 2.5yr old that may die of blue tongue or hit by a car the next year.
So yeah I think my pawpaw would approve of the group of guys that I spend the majority of the year with and how they have helped raise my kids and teach them how to not only hunt but cook, clean, socialize, build a fire, work, and manage a place into a decent place to enjoy gods creation.
Regardless of how many or how big of a deer is killed, I think my pawpaw is looking down with a smile on his face.
BTW I have dog hunted and I have seen some dog hunters who would get jealous if someone killed a deer and would try to get the good spots or make sure they were with the group that turned loose cus they knew the big bucks would double back!!
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 7:54 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:57 am to Ron Cheramie
My pow pow didn’t see a live deer until his kids were grown. He was a rabbit hunter and wing shooter because deer had been hunted to near extinction where he grew up. I’ll take how things are now.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 7:58 am to Ron Cheramie
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Your average deer hunter in Louisiana pays a pretty good penny to sit in a box in the middle of a pine thicket watching his 1/10 acre food plot (if we get the rain to get it growing).
Spends a mint on corn and rice bran, worries about his feeders
Spends money and time on his cameras and checking his cameras just for the hope that the one 16” buck he has on camera at midnight may make the mistake of coming out in the daylight in front of his stand instead of the neighbors stand 200 yards away
He gripes about the timber company that comes in during deer season that clearcuts all around his stand and then has a bunch of migrant workers coming around planting during middle of deer season.
I don't do any of that, not b/c I'm against it, but b/c I'm cheap.
I don't dog hunt but know many guys who do. I have absolutely nothing against them. I mostly hunt public but have a very small batch of in law land I hunt that butts up against a dog hunting club. Never have problems with them. Only problems I have ever had were from other still hunters. I've only been on a couple dog hunts when invited and it was a blast, all the one's I know have strict rules on what kind of deer you can shoot, 3 or 4 points or more. I'm actually against those rules, that's why I hunt public, but yes, even dog hunting clubs have strict rules, some of them.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:06 am to Ol boy
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If someone shoots deer that’s not what we want to shoot we know they feel bad about it
Ridiculous someone would feel bad about shooting any deer, unless it still had spots on it. If I shoot a 4 pt, I'm thrilled, same as an 8 or 10 pt.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:21 am to Ron Cheramie
Had a long discussion with my buddies sitting around a fire about this. Hunting is what you make it. The teamwork component of dog hunting is what makes it special.
We quit running dogs several years ago and have turned into a normal box stands and right of ways club like everyone else. IMO it sucks. There are enough trail cameras in the woods that a buck has a hard time crossing the land we actually hunt without having his picture taken. When you kill a buck the talk isnt about the hunt at all but about who has pictures of it. I guess that's good for some people but having experienced the old way, I dont get anything out of it. I prefer just shooting does now. If we didn't have designated doe days (thanks LDWF) that's probably all I'd do. I feel like I'm picking vegetables. I still enjoy it and when I have kids I'll be grateful to have a comfortable easy place to bring them. It definitely ain't fun like it used to be though.
I got into public land hunting this year and that's got me excited again. It's new and it's tough, tent camping adds a new layer of fun to the hunt, and the fat coonasses leave lots of land untouched. Without having a place to run dogs anymore, public land hunting has me shooting my bow again and getting excited for next year. The two public land trips I made were the most fun I had all year even though I didn't shoot anything. I will definitely be doing it more next season.
We quit running dogs several years ago and have turned into a normal box stands and right of ways club like everyone else. IMO it sucks. There are enough trail cameras in the woods that a buck has a hard time crossing the land we actually hunt without having his picture taken. When you kill a buck the talk isnt about the hunt at all but about who has pictures of it. I guess that's good for some people but having experienced the old way, I dont get anything out of it. I prefer just shooting does now. If we didn't have designated doe days (thanks LDWF) that's probably all I'd do. I feel like I'm picking vegetables. I still enjoy it and when I have kids I'll be grateful to have a comfortable easy place to bring them. It definitely ain't fun like it used to be though.
I got into public land hunting this year and that's got me excited again. It's new and it's tough, tent camping adds a new layer of fun to the hunt, and the fat coonasses leave lots of land untouched. Without having a place to run dogs anymore, public land hunting has me shooting my bow again and getting excited for next year. The two public land trips I made were the most fun I had all year even though I didn't shoot anything. I will definitely be doing it more next season.
This post was edited on 1/19/20 at 8:23 am
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:27 am to windshieldman
We as a group have decided that we will try to shoot mature bucks and shoot a doe if we want the meat. Each member gets one deer that can be whatever and We will let a kid or a wife shoot the first thing that comes out.
It works for us.
It works for us.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:32 am to Ol boy
How you gonna dog hunt on 52 acres? It’s not that people don’t like dog hunting, it’s they don’t like other people’s dogs running on their property. If you have 20,000 acres I don’t care if you dog hunt, but I’ll tell you your dogs are still gonna trespass in other peoples lands even with 20,000 acres and that’s BS.
Nobody cares about anyone shooting small bucks if they just do it for the harvest and to eat it. It’s the guys that brag about shooting 3 cull bucks and crap like that people hate on.
Nobody cares about anyone shooting small bucks if they just do it for the harvest and to eat it. It’s the guys that brag about shooting 3 cull bucks and crap like that people hate on.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:34 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:
Had a long discussion with my buddies sitting around a fire about this. Hunting is what you make it. The teamwork component of dog hunting is what makes it special.
We quit running dogs several years ago and have turned into a normal box stands and right of ways club like everyone else. IMO it sucks. There are enough trail cameras in the woods that a buck has a hard time crossing the land we actually hunt without having his picture taken. When you kill a buck the talk isnt about the hunt at all but about who has pictures of it. I guess that's good for some people but having experienced the old way, I dont get anything out of it. I prefer just shooting does now. If we didn't have designated doe days (thanks LDWF) that's probably all I'd do. I feel like I'm picking vegetables. I still enjoy it and when I have kids I'll be grateful to have a comfortable easy place to bring them. It definitely ain't fun like it used to be though.
I got into public land hunting this year and that's got me excited again. It's new and it's tough, tent camping adds a new layer of fun to the hunt, and the fat coonasses leave lots of land untouched. Without having a place to run dogs anymore, public land hunting has me shooting my bow again and getting excited for next year. The two public land trips I made were the most fun I had all year even though I didn't shoot anything. I will definitely be doing it more next season.
Yeah, I like not knowing exactly what's out there, the mystery I guess, is why I don't buy a camera. And public land hunting is great, but sometimes public land hunters can be overly annoying also. Like dude, we get it, you walk a "long" ways before dark to get to your spot. So do 75% of us, all of a sudden that's something to brag about now. Congrats on knowing how to walk.
I've killed deer a rocks throw away from a main trail and as far as you can possibly go in the woods. Box stands just don't do it for me. When older son and I go, we sit on the ground with a small turkey blind
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:36 am to Ol boy
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We as a group have decided that we will try to shoot mature bucks and shoot a doe if we want the meat. Each member gets one deer that can be whatever and We will let a kid or a wife shoot the first thing that comes out.
It works for us
Nothing at all wrong with that, I'm just speaking of the being disappointed part.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 8:53 am to Ron Cheramie
I will fish before doing either of those.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 9:55 am to AlxTgr
Fishing passed up hunting as my favorite last year. Making the elk hunt and a few public land hunts this year flipped the needle back where it belongs. The public land elk hunt was the big thing. For lack of a better way to put it, that feels like it's how hunting is supposed to be.
Last year I made a fishing trip during hunting season. I never even considered that before. Having my own boat helps drive that too.
Last year I made a fishing trip during hunting season. I never even considered that before. Having my own boat helps drive that too.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 10:44 am to Ron Cheramie
Sitting on a food plot in the middle of pine trees watching a corn pile and hoping the deer decides to walk by my stand sounds like punishment to me.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:02 am to Jack Daniel
Fwiw sitting on food plots in most of the Deep South is not wise hunting anyway. I know our deer don’t use trails as much as elsewhere, but you can still sit other areas. I’m all about food plots to help the deer, but mature bucks don’t like to go out in the open outside of chasing poon and there’s often better places to find them doing that even. If it’s all you got that’s one thing, but I know plenty of guys that just like to see 390 yards and choose the October green field over hunting the oak bottoms and transition areas by choice.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:34 pm to Ron Cheramie
Wtf Ron? You drunk?!
Posted on 1/19/20 at 12:45 pm to jorconalx
Deep thoughts before church!
Posted on 1/19/20 at 1:40 pm to Ron Cheramie
40+ years of deer hunting, I never did food plots or feed. I hunted the same woods and I knew the woods like the back of my hand and knew which area and trees were deer would feed and which areas were they bed down. I had spent more time in the woods then longer then some of y'all.
It's been now three years I gave up hunting all together. Do I miss it? Yes, but better then people finding me dead in the woods. My last hunt, I blacked out for a couple hours and once I was awake, I had to walk about 1/2 mile. Wasn't the best feeling I ever had.
It's been now three years I gave up hunting all together. Do I miss it? Yes, but better then people finding me dead in the woods. My last hunt, I blacked out for a couple hours and once I was awake, I had to walk about 1/2 mile. Wasn't the best feeling I ever had.
Posted on 1/19/20 at 11:14 pm to Ron Cheramie
I hunt for myself and no one else. I hunt private and public. What I shoot today I may not shoot tomorrow and what I shoot tomorrow I may not shoot today.
Posted on 1/20/20 at 5:43 am to WillFerrellisking
Grew up sitting over feeders and foodplots in FL. Currently in VA, sitting in a pop up with my bow over some late season food sources. Only time I enjoy sitting over a plot now is when I go back home with pops and take one of my kids. They enjoy it, so I do too.
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