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re: Are LA anglers overfishing speckled trout? Interesting article

Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:38 pm to
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That's borne out in numbers Blanchet supplied. According to LDWF research data, 66 percent of anglers catch five or fewer speckled trout per trip, 3 percent catch 10 per trip, 2 percent catch 15 per trip and 4 percent catch 25 per trip.


and we have a huge impact on trout?
This post was edited on 3/1/13 at 3:43 pm
Posted by doublecutter
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:44 pm to
Last late spring, my son and I went surf fishing at Elmer's Island, and a LWF agent stopped us and had us answer a survey.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
263209 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:45 pm to
quote:

I'm no biologist but I find it to be a pretty big coincidence that when a "new" spot is dicovered and many anglers flock to this location, very shortly thereafter the fishing becomes sub-par.


Sounds like your biologists are doing a poor job of managing the fishery if that is true.
Posted by Motorboat
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:46 pm to
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Sounds like your biologists are doing a poor job of managing the fishery if that is true.


Sounds more like a bunch of tards going into a spot and spooking off the fish.
Posted by doublecutter
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 3:53 pm to
As for as overfishing a spot, the way I think of it is that one spot that a lot of people know about might receive a lot of fishing pressure, but what about spots where trout might congregate that no one knows exists? There have to be many, many spots that hold structure, tidal flow, shell bottoms, or some other detail that attract fish that are hidden under the surface, and fishermen drive their boats right past them.
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 4:33 pm to
We don't talk about those spots
Posted by PurpleAndGoldFinger
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 4:46 pm to
Lots of factors to consider here. The effects of the recent storms, BP disaster & the use of despersants. We won't know the true effect for many years. And a lot more boats on the waters, and idiots to go along with them. There is no common courtesy between fisherman anymore. Personally, last year was the best year I have had trout fishing in many years. Remember also, this is exactly how the snapper debacle started years ago. It's called fishing people, not catching. Like anyything worth while, it takes time, effort and persistance.. oh and a lot of money also.
Posted by treble hook
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 3/1/13 at 5:25 pm to
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and we have a huge impact on trout?

These numbers mean nothing. There used to be plenty of boats that catch limits or near every trip. And not just school trout. 3-4 pound average. That's not the case anymore.
Posted by mack the knife
EBR
Member since Oct 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 6:24 pm to
i've been a saltwater fisherman since i was old enough to sleep in the car on the way down and i'm 40+ now. i've seen the trout population go to absolute crap in the 80's to where it is now and all the iterations in between. the shrimp population has seemed to have more to do with trout than most other factors. however, i've seen the population go down after a 2-3 year run of good economic conditions when everyone can afford boats/charter trips as wanted. also, periodic freezes that we experienced in the late 80's early 90's seemed to have a detrimential effect also.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
26177 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 8:41 pm to
Overfishing is a small factor here. The 2010 BP oil spill and corexit really did a number on the trout spawn in 2010/2011. The impact of oil still contaminating the marshlands every day plus the loss of wetlands are the main contributors here. I suspect a limit of between 6-10 per person is coming next year in Eastern Louisiana.
Posted by Bullredbf
thibodaux
Member since Feb 2013
901 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 8:55 pm to
I dont think they will go as low as 6-10, but more in the 15 range. Honestly i would be fine with this. What really scares me is the BP spill. If you look at Alaska and Valdez, it took 4 years for the herring populations to crash and still havent recovered in that area. We may not have seen the full damage yet.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16611 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:00 pm to
I'm fine with 15 fish limits. I fish about 40-50 days a year and usually only go when conditions are good and during the week. My catch percentages are high because of being able to do that. I hope they make the change,that's plenty of fish and they don't really freeze well anyway.
Posted by Bussemer
Heading South
Member since Dec 2007
2525 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:03 pm to
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I'm fine with 15 fish limits


This. 30 filets per day is more than enough.
Posted by Bullredbf
thibodaux
Member since Feb 2013
901 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 9:06 pm to
15 is plenty. I generally fish from may to august and rarely limit with 3-4 fishin on the boat. It never fails that im giving away fish the next year to
Neighbors before the next summer. Im all for lower limits if it solidifies the future, just look at redfish.
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 3/1/13 at 11:00 pm to
they are planning to move you to 15 fish and maybe the size limit to 14" too from what I am hearing
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12925 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 12:20 am to
I've been hearing 15 since before the spill so that doesn't surprise me. The land loss has resulted in less shoreline habit that's vital for the trout. Spill obviously made matters worse, to what extent no one knows yet.
Posted by TJG210
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2006
28398 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 1:23 am to
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15 fish and maybe the size limit to 14" too from what I am hearing


Would be complete and utter bullshite......they made all of those changes on the western end of the state and it hasn't made a shite bit of difference. Would really put the economics of things into perspective if they did this......fuel your boat up, buy bait and ice, head to the islands for 45 measily fish?
I can't see it happening, too many people would be hurt.....marina operators, charter captains.
Posted by ReelFun
Behind dugout
Member since Apr 2012
1004 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 6:02 am to
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From Seagrant&LSU


Here is the link to the fact sheet by Jerald Horst revised in 2003.

LINK

Here is on seatrout spawning:

LINK

here is about sustainable yields:

LINK



This post was edited on 3/2/13 at 6:11 am
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12925 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 6:32 am to
quote:

fuel your boat up, buy bait and ice, head to the islands for 45 measily fish? I can't see it happening, too many people would be hurt.....marina operators, charter captains.


So there is less pressure on Big Lake now?

quote:

made all of those changes on the western end of the state and it hasn't made a shite bit of difference


Trout stocks continue to remain stable?

quote:

fuel your boat up, buy bait and ice, head to the islands for 45 measily fish?


So we keep it at 25 until its overfished?
Posted by Capt ST
Hotel California
Member since Aug 2011
12925 posts
Posted on 3/2/13 at 6:41 am to
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The future of the fishery depends on two factors: good habitat and good management. If our coastal areas remain unpolluted and coastal erosion is controlled, management will be the key.


No worries for us then.
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